10 Reasons Why Flu Shots Are More Dangerous Than The Flu!

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The verdict is out on flu shots. Many medical experts now agree it is more important to protect yourself and your family from the flu vaccine than the flu itself. Let’s take a look at the reasons behind this verdict:

1.) There is a total lack of real evidence that young children even benefit from flu shots. A systematic review of 51 studies involving 260,000 children age 6 to 23 months found no evidence that the flu vaccine is any more effective than a placebo. Also the shots are only able to protect against certain strains of the virus, which means that if you come into contact with a different strain of virus you will still get the flu.

2.) Medical journals have published thousands of articles revealing that injecting vaccines can actually lead to serious health problems including harmful immunological responses and a host of other infections. This further increases the body’s susceptibility to the diseases that the vaccine was supposed to protect against.

3.) Ever noticed how vaccinated children within days or few weeks develop runny noses, pneumonia, ear infections and bronchiolitis? The reason is the flu virus introduced in their bodies which creates these symptoms. It also indicates immuno-suppression i.e. lowering of the immunity. The flu vaccines actually do not immunize but sensitize the body against the virus.

4.) Its a known fact that Flu vaccines contain strains of the flu virus along with other ingredients. Now think about the impact such a vaccine can have over someone with a suppressed immune system? If you have a disease that is already lowering your body’s ability to fight a virus, taking the flu shot will put your body in danger of getting the full effects of the flu and make you more susceptible to pneumonia and other contagious diseases.

5.) The Flu vaccines contain mercury, a heavy metal known to be hazardous for human health. The amount of mercury contained in a multi-dose flu shot is much higher than the maximum allowable daily exposure limit. Mercury toxicity can cause memory loss, depression, ADD, oral health problems, digestive imbalances, respiratory problems, cardiovascular diseases and many more such serious health ailments.

And what about the elderly? Can the flu vaccine help them?

6.) There is mounting evidence that flu shots can cause Alzheimer’s disease. One report shows that people who received the flu vaccine each year for 3 to 5 years had a 10-fold greater chance of developing Alzheimer’s disease than people who did not have any flu shots. Also with age the immune system weakens, thus lowering your ability to fight off infections. Introducing the flu virus in the bodies of elderly could have dangerous consequences.

Can we trust the authorities who are promoting the wide-spread use of flu vaccines?

7.) The Center for Disease Control appoints a 15-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). This committee is responsible for deciding who should be vaccinated each year. Almost all the ACIP have a financial interest in immunizations. It’s all about the money and may have very little to do with your health and well being. The very people pushing these vaccines stand to make billions of dollars. This itself creates a doubt on how effective these flu vaccines really are?

8.) Research shows that over-use of the flu-vaccine and drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza can actually alter flu viruses and cause them to mutate into a more deadly strain. Couple this with drug resistant strains and you have virtually no benefits with much risk.

9.) There is enough evidence that shows that the ingredients present in the flu vaccinations can actually cause serious neurological disorders. In the 1976 swine flu outbreak, many who got the flu shots developed permanent nerve damage. Flu vaccines can contain many harmful materials including detergent, mercury, formaldehyde, and strains of live flu virus. Is this what you want to put in YOUR body?

10.) Trying to guess what strain to vaccinate against each season has proved to be no more effective than a guessing game. This has been very true in recent years with the H1N1 strain. Moreover getting multi-shots will only prove more dangerous as different strains of viruses and harmful ingredients are introduced into your body.

Flu shots are indeed more dangerous than you could think, and it is best to rely on natural ways to protect against the flu rather than getting yourself vaccinated.

Isn’t it interesting that the main stream public health officials never promote the various proven ways to avoid the flu other than through vaccination? How about spending some of the billions of advertising dollars teaching us natural ways to boost our immune systems and avoid the flu without harmful and sometimes deadly vaccinations.

Source: Bewellbuzz.com


209 Comments on 10 Reasons Why Flu Shots Are More Dangerous Than The Flu!

  1. I enjoy reading most of what you put on your page, but I have begun something new. I want to read your sources for the information that you put up. You mention studies, yet there is no link to those studies. So my research side begins doubting…and wondering where is the transparency in what you state. This is another one of those "Give me the choice" to read before I build an opinion and either accept or reject the information.

  2. Bewellbuzz.com is not a peer reviewed source and on their page a news program among others is not a credible source either.
    I do get my flu shot or I did until this year. I am still fencing sitting on this until I get more information about the new one. My husband nearly died last year from H1N1 and he had the flu shot so I am very leery about the whole thing. I want credible evidence about these shots and this is not the place for that.

  3. James Connolly

    I'm not a doctor and I don't work in medicine and neither does anyone in my family. I have taken a personal interest in vaccination and popular-medical wisdom over the past few years. I have several comments to make on the article you reposted (which has no scientific references to follow up).

    1) the total lack of evidence is pure and simple BS considering that among the unvaccinated population in the USA, I've read there are between 3,000 and 50,000 deaths annually (depending on the year, and the mutations present) from strains present in the vaccine (it's true, the vaccine is a top 6 to top 10 concoction of this year's predicted "hit" influenza strains – so the vaccine won't help against variants not in the best-guess list). And one can freely ignore my comments because I don't have the studies at hand to support the claim. It's from memory.

    2) medical journals have reported on significant side-effects in susceptible populations, and mostly in the distant past, because we've learned. For example, no one can get the flu vaccine if they are allergic to eggs or chicken. Why is that? Because we don't let those people take the vaccine! And that's because research and articles in the medical literature point out that people allergic to eggs will have a reaction to the vaccine (which is grown using chicken embryos). Today it is very difficult to have a serious adverse reaction to the flu vaccine if one answers honestly the questions on the pre-vaccination screening questionnaire. That said, I spoke with a director in our city's largest vaccination clinic about the incidence of anaphylaxis in their clinic. I was shocked to learn that they have one or two per year if they're unlucky (the chances are less than 1 in 100,000). This is anecdotal, so it's accuracy cannot be confirmed.

    3) The reason people get flu symptoms when they get the vaccine is that the body is responding to what it believes is an influenza infection (which includes runny nose, aches, congestion, and even mild fever). On the contrary, the presence of these symptoms doesn't indicate immunosuppression, it clearly indicates the immune system is busy defending against the perceived attack and eventually building antibodies to recognize and destroy any further occurrence of the proteins it found at the injection site.

    4) Even if someone were immunosuppressed by the vaccine (which they aren't), the influenza vaccine does not contain any live virus or even the viral RNA. Instead, the vaccine is a combination of the proteins which the virus would produce if it had infected you. It is these foreign proteins which spark the immune system response (symptoms in #3) and the ultimate production of antibodies against future infection. If one does come into contact with a different disease, it is theoretically possible that because the body is busy defending against the influenza proteins that it can't fight off another infection. And it's also theoretically possible that when one eats a banana, the digestive system is too busy to metabolize an apple – except the immune system is body-wide and the digestive tract is huge, and both have enormously differentiated cells to do specific work and handle the load.

    5) Some flu vaccines (specifically the multi-use containers for use in clinics) are preserved with Thimerosal, which contains ethyl-mercury, a compound which is generally considered to be safe (it's impossible to prove anything is harmless – even oxygen in too great a quantity will kill). The mercury everyone worries about is free mercury (the shiny liquid) or the kind sequestered in fish as methyl-mercury, which is highly toxic. Just because half of the chemical name is present, doesn't make the molecule a poison. For instance, many adults thoroughly enjoy Ethyl Alcohol in beverages; however, no one enjoys Methyl Alcholoh because it causes headaches, blindness, and death. Both are alcohol compounds, but the methyl vs. ethyl is a BIG DEAL in living creatures. A very big deal.

    6) I am unfamiliar with a link between influenza vaccination and onset of alzheimers. Could be true. Given no references to check, I think it may be an exaggeration, but better to check. And it's important to check because the elderly (and very young children) are the most at risk of serious illness and death due to influenza. Teenagers through mid-life adults ordinarily fight off the infection of the respiratory tract and lungs. By the way, influenza has nothing to do with stomach issues – what people call the stomach flu is commonly a norovirus infection.

    7) Hard to say if this is true, but the scientists and medical researchers who PUBLISH studies on this don't all have a financial incentive to lie and put their own families at risk. This comment resembles a conspiracy theory. If it's true, then the US government should clean house at the CDC. In Canada (and in other countries around the world) vaccinations are not governed, studied, nor administered by the CDC. Nor are these agencies or their members positioned to make a profit from the vaccination industry (other than having a job, of which vaccination work is only a part). Considering how it's next to impossible to get governments to agree on disarming chemical weapons in Syria, I would personally be surprised if there were a global financial conspiracy to immunize for profit. First I doubt that every country would sign on, and second, there are much better ways to bilk a population out of it's hard-earned money. Vaccines are a long and arduous route to fortune.

    8) While there is some truth to the fact that Tamiflu and Relenza can kill off most of an infected person's influenza (leaving only the strongest mutated variants to survive), this is akin to overuse (and incomplete use) of antibiotics which pretty much everyone agrees is a Bad Thing. Influenza vaccination neither causes an already infected person's influenza virus to mutate more (or less) than it would otherwise. And if the influenza vaccine is taken long enough before exposure, it allows the body to detect and destroy the influenza infection before it mutates.

    9) Yes, 38 years ago, there were issues with purity and handling of vaccines. And these were not minor issues. If the author of this article believes that we're still using vaccines developed 38 years ago, he/she is wrong, very wrong indeed. Likewise, there was a time when operating rooms weren't sterilized and surgeons didn't wash their hands before surgery. Is that a good reason to skip a necessary surgery now? Only if you believe people don't learn from their mistakes and put in place practices to prevent similar occurrences from taking place. Life is messy. We don't know everything. But seriously, the medical community has an excellent track record of learning from its mistakes and incorporating new findings into its Standard Operating Procedures. Why is this? Because the medical community is overseen by the people who receive treatment from the medical community (as do the families of those involved). It's in everyone's best interest to incorporate the latest findings and safety protocols.

    10) The concoction of 6-to-10 best guesses of influenza strains contains the most virulent and life-threatening strains known at the time. It is a guessing game since the influenza virus mutates and disease propagation isn't a linear (or even simple geometric) process. You can take your chances. I prefer to give my body a head-start opportunity on defending on what might well be a deadly threat next year.

  4. Sharon Weeks-Maupin
    I'm with you; I would like to see double blind scientific studies sited not just random website or newspaper articles. I don't think this site ever has any reliable sources…just anti-establishment websites. I looked at the Buzzwell site and it does not seem like a reliable source.

  5. Tina Wayland

    Yay, James! We need to stop the spread of this awful rumour that vaccines do more harm than good. People continue to pass on the myth despite clear evidence to the contrary because of junk science articles like this. If you really want to save lives, vaccinate your kids.

  6. Katherine Edwards

    I work in a n emergency room and the hospital required us all to get flu vaccines, I was eight months pregnant and I refused the vaccine because I believed all of this b.s. about how bad flu vaccines are, and guess what…I got the flu, I was sicker than I have ever been, It lingered around for a solid month because my immune system was compromised from being pregnant and my OB thought I was absolutely crazy for refusing the vaccine. When my baby was four days old, all three of my teenagers got the same flu because I was an idiot and did not vaccinate them but my baby was fine because he and I had gotten it already, he took his immunity from me. This year, all of my boys got the flu shot, the baby is now nine months and you better believe he got one too. He did not have even one symptom of flu or runny nose or a fever. I did it because of the amount of children that I see hospitalized and that die every year. I'm there when these children are brought in having seizures from a fever and the parents are losing their minds.

  7. David Roche

    There are no "sources". This is just another silly fear-inducing pile of claptrap masquerading under the guise of "health". Ugh. You are endangering MANY people by refusing to get the flu shot, for f sake!

  8. Here hereRrrrrrrr!!! Its obviously high time to dismantle the deadly-over-obnoxious n extorting big pharmas to their knees once n for all by simply not complying to their bullshit pushed on by their lap-dog political counter parts in government!!!!!

  9. Stephen Kuper

    This highly subjective article aside, if you are in good overall health and there isn't some super deadly strain of flu going around there really isn't a good reason to take a chance on getting a flu shot. Almost everyone I know who gets the flu shot gets the flu right afterward. Also my brother, who is a firefighter and is required to get a flu shot, developed Transverse Myelitis after his vaccination. Transverse Myelitis is an inflammation of the spinal cord and causes spinal lesions and weakness and numbness in the arms and legs. My brother was hospitalized for a week, and it took him 3 months to recover. He still isn't 100%.
    After having a severe reaction to Levaquin myself, something that affects me to this day, I don't trust any medication and I would recommend to others to not take ANYTHING that isn't absolutely necessary. Even in those cases exhaustively researching the pros and cons of treatment would be wise. The FDA is a joke and pharmaceutical companies care for nothing other than profits. You have to take responsibility and be vigilant when it comes to you and your family's health.

  10. i have copd, i have taken the flu shot every year since i found out about them and i have never had the flu or any of the problems they mention, i get seasonal allgeries almost every year tobad they cant find something to work this good for them

  11. When Randy got so sick the Dr told me I should get a flu shot every year because of working in a retail store that had a pharmacy in it and the possibility of bringing sickness home to him. All my life whenever I get the flu it is 24 hours and it's gone. The year the Dr told me that I got a flu shot. I was never so sick in all my life and it lasted a full week!! I will never get a flu shot again!

  12. Melissa Barron Brooks

    My father passed away this past March, from complications due to the flu, he was in the hospital and on a ventilator about 10 days after getting HIS FLU VACCINE! While he was in the hospital, on life support for about a week, the staff were very quick to point out to visitors the importance of getting their flu shot… yes, as my dad lay there dying of the FLU – they took every opportunity to tell my family how important that shot is… funny none showed up at his funeral to tell us that! Don't know who this James is… but I know damn well what killed my dad!

  13. Stephen Oxley

    Tina Wayland Maybe we should just stop messing with mother nature. We've come along way since sanitation first came about. There should be no need to be injected with something to prevent from getting something that happens yearly. I don't know about you guys, but I've been around people with the flu a lot (especially when I was in the military) and before, and I never got the flu. Eat good, stay active, think positive. I refuse to take that garbage anymore (now that I can).

  14. Stephen Oxley

    Tina Wayland , Oh, and why did you specify kids? you only want to vaccinate kids? Aren't kids more susceptible to neurological damage or whatever else kind of health problems you can think of from foreign toxins etc? Kind of like the reason children's toothpaste has no fluoride, but it's in adults toothpaste.

  15. Holly Keefer

    Okay I'd like to add my opinion but I"m not a doctor.

    I am also neither for nor against these vaccines.

    I feel as if what's right for one person might not be right for another. I've read post that say the flu vaccine has helped them. I've also read post where the vaccine has hurt them and I'm for this reason I'm very sorry for those who've experience this. It's very real and flu shot can be very dangerous to some but it's also rare to experience this sort of thing(like any drug it's a risk that you take).

    While I agree that exercise and eating healthy along with a healthy attitude can make you healthy I also believe that there is evidence that the flu vaccine along with others can and do help but yes, it can harm you as well..

    I realize that for some there is heartbreak in what they've experienced but for others it's really has helped.

    and with that being said. Please please don't do something based on a facebook post or any post anywhere.

    Make your decision informed and research what you find BEFORE you decide to put ANYTHING chemical or not in your body.

    Make sure that you seek the advise of a licensed doctor or natural herbalist BEFORE you make these sorts of very serous possibly life changing decisions for you or your children.

    You must do what's right for you and your children and not the facebook post or letting society decide for you.

    Each to his or her own

  16. Neil Murrell

    Okay, a few quick points:

    1) This is the age of instant communication. Never in the history of man has it been easier to CITE YOUR SOURCES! Seriously, in this day and age, if you make a strong claim about anything without citing it, your readers have every right to just assume that it's bullshit. There's no excuse for not citing, ever.

    2) On average, the flu claims about 36,000 lives a year in the USA alone. It is also responsible for nearly a quarter of a million hospitalisations (cite: http://tinyurl.com/2mf5rs – see how easy that is?) Unless you can prove that vaccines are more dangerous than that, you don't really have much of a case.

    3) There are certain people who can't get vaccines. Newborn babies, people with HIV, organ transplant recipients, patients with certain allergies (particularly egg, which is a common allergy), and people with compromised immune systems are all especially vulnerable to the flu because they can't get vaccines. By refusing to get vaccinated, you increase the risk of someone weak and vulnerable catching, and possibly dying, from the disease. Herd immunity, it only works if everybody plays.

    I've plenty more to say, but James Connolly has already said it better than I would have. Excellent post, sir!

  17. Susan Bell Mercado

    Not sure I agree in total for everyone. My Grandson has cystic fibrosis and this article would mean he and all others around him, family, caregivers friends shouldn't have the shot. But, the CF foundation strongly encourages can save his life. Not willing to take a risk like that.

  18. Tina Wayland you know nothing.
    you sir, are way more educated than I, James Connolly
    but there is a lot to consider and look at.

    read "vaccine safety for concerned parents and health practitioners"
    come on people… really? how is it not evident to you all by now that the medical association does not care about you or your health? Every drug prescribed has a ridicilous amount of side effects.. you think that just because you don't experience them, your body is not suffering?
    On another note, some vaccines do contain live viruses… and vaccines do harm our immune system, you are supposed to have (roughly) 20-40 antibodies… vaccines cause us to produce over a thousand and the immune system gets extremely discombobulated from this.

    Really? Vaccines aren't causing autism or ADD or ADHD or any issues? Look at how much the neurological damaged population is growing… each generation is stuck with more and more shots… it should be pretty fucking obvious by now that something is up?

    A Doctor will tell you that there are only trace amounts of aluminum and mercury in vaccines… yet the amount of aluminum in a vaccine is 10 fold what the FDA (who are way to loose on regulating as it is) declares as a safe consumption for AN ADULT. DOES YOUR CHILD REALLY NEED A HEPATITIS B SHOT AT BIRTH THAT WILL ONLY LAST UNTIL AGE 10.. how many adolescents do you know of that are hitting the heroine, getting tattoos, or having sexual relations?

    On top of that, these disease are constantly changing, it takes a minimum of 6 months, generally a year, to create and distribute a new vaccine… so you are telling me that a year in advance, or even 6 months for that matter.. Scientists know how a virus will change… ARE YOU FLIPPING KIDDING ME? not to mention that mass producing vaccines for all different regions… they will all be different…

    So now we look at evolution…. injecting a virus, bypassing our mucus membranes… this is where our bodies have evolved to handle virus'…. and now all of a sudden we just inject it into our blood… have you ever thought about that? ever thought about how our gut is roughly 60-70% of our immune system… how about diet? Dr. Mercola has great information on why vaccines are absolutely obsolete if we have a great diet with enough vitamin D as well as other nutrients. (assuming they do work, which I believe to be false)

    Now I will admit that I once believed that vaccines were great! My mind changed after seeing autism and how a child can greatly recover when you DETOX ALL OF THE HEAVY METALS IN THEIR BODY… THE SAME HEAVY METALS THAT ARE IN "TRACE" AMOUNTS IN VACCINES.

    and even if you find some excuse like "oh well I'm sure his mercury and aluminum levels were just off the charts because he got them from somewhere else, like toys or.. something" well how magical of you….

    My concern is that we are next testing this out, and when a good study does come along it is difficult to even get it out because people are so hellbent that this could not possibly be true, STOP THE IGNORANCE, LOOK INTO IT, READ BOTH SIDES AND DEDUCE YOUR OPINION, there are so many studies out there that youi can read about on google, are they all conclusive? Hell no, you weren't there to see it done, just like your Doctor (who sold his soul) was not there to conduct research on vaccines being safe, but it is enough to raise questions. DO NOT TAKE A SIDE, don't trust my word or that other guys word… FUCKING READ FOR YOURSELF…. BE A RESPONSIBLE PARENT, DON'T YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING INSIDE YOUR CHILD'S BODY? CONTACT THE CDC and order the ingredients list, gee I wonder why they don't have a link for the ingredients? EDUCATE YOURSELF, look at both sides… at least do that.

  19. are *not* testing for the harm it does, so quick to say "the notion that vaccines could potentially be harmful to our well-being is preposterous" … that is alarming.. we need CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that this isn't bad before we stick the youth with it…
    sorry for the grammatical errors, in a hurry. I hope some of you will educate yourself on both why some believe it to be harmful and also why some believe it to not be although, it should be evident that there is a problem when the majority of what you read will be the pro vaccine people saying "there is no conclusive evidence that this could be harmful, so stupid" and the anti-vaccine people actually putting up good numbers

    I don't have time to put references and stuff.. I work and am in college.. look up
    Dr. Russel Blaylock, Dr. Mercola, and Dr Andrew Wakefield for good information on my side of the argument. Wakefield was framed for fraudulance, but has since been relieved of all crimes he was accused of, so don't listen to bullshit about him lacking credibility

  20. I've not had a flu shot in 25yrs. This time of year I start taking cod liver oil to build immune system against cold and flu. When cold hits I'll take Astragalus and Oscillicoccinum and hot Cognac before bed. Let your own immune system fight the virus-not load it with antiiotics –PS: Did you know the antibiotics come from China???? So do Tylenol and Motrin !!

  21. Neil Murrell

    Stephen Oxley What's so great about Mother Nature? About 30% of the land mass of our planet is completely uninhabitable, 99% of all species which have ever lived are extinct, and once every few million years there are colossal global "die-offs" which are, more often than not, precipitated by natural disasters. Cancer is natural. Cancer surgery is unnatural. Tuberculosis is natural. Antibiotics are unnatural. Earthquakes and tsunamis are natural. Earthquake detection systems are unnatural. The most "natural" thing to do with a broken leg is just to let the bone heal, but without artificial intervention, it'd most likely heal badly and you might even lose the limb. Back in the days when we had no choice but to rely on Mother Nature, a human being would consider himself lucky to reach the grand old age of 25. Mother Nature clearly doesn't care whether we live or die. Maybe we should stop deferring to her.

  22. Neil Murrell

    Kyle Needles – You know nothing (Jon Snow).

    You said " STOP THE IGNORANCE, LOOK INTO IT, READ BOTH SIDES AND DEDUCE YOUR OPINION"

    Given that you're so big on objectivity, I hope you won't mind taking a few minutes to read this: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism/

    The link between vaccination, specifically the 3-in-1 MMR vaccine, and autism is based on one study, of twelve children, conducted by a man, Andrew Wakefield, who had a vested financial interest in promoting single vaccines. Wakefield was subsequently struck off the UK medical register for faking some of the results of his infamous study. At the same time, a Scandinavian study of 500,000 children found no link between vaccines and autism.

    The reason that autism rates are going up is simple, and has nothing to do with vaccines. A few years ago (1994, I think, though I'm not 100% sure) the DSM-IV, the Bible of psychiatry and psychology, broadened the diagnostic criteria for autism. Put simply, autism rates are going up because autism has become easier to diagnose. Moreover, there is increased awareness of both autism and Aspergers, so fewer cases are slipping through the net. Indeed, autism rates are going up for ADULTS as well as children, and adults, of course, don't get the MMR vaccine. James Connolly has addressed the bulk of your concerns. I suggest you re-read his post.

  23. Neil Murrell

    P.S. – Contrary to your assertion, Wakefield has been cleared of nothing. His paper was deemed fraudulent, and that verdict has not been reversed by any British medical authority. He is still barred from practising medicine in the UK.

  24. Janette Velarde

    Kathy Furnivall It's stories like this that kept me from getting the flu vaccination…fear because of the horror stories. BUT, every year I would get sick with the flu and especially, that awful/painful chest congestion! I was the one who always would get sick in November or December with the terrible aches and pains of the aching chest, fever, sinus congestion, unable to breathe. Until 3 years ago I received my 1st flu shot! I have never been healthier! Here it is September and I've already received my flu vaccination for this season with no ill effects. I'm sorry you got sick, Kathy Furnival, but that's not the case for everyone…

  25. What about the double blind controlled clinical trials as to the efficacy? Where they at Jim? Oh we don't need them for this? I thought that was the Gold Standard?

  26. Melissa Barron Brooks If you have ever gotten a flu shot then you would know it takes 2 weeks for the vaccine to protect you. Do you know if the vaccine he received covered the type of flu he got.. I am sorry for your loss but you can't blame the vaccine..

  27. James : Thimersoal is a derivative of ethyl-mercury and this is what I found recently and to me it sounds like the flu vaccine may not be a good thing…will you elaborate what your opinion is here? If the FDA is calling to remove mercury vaccines due to an infant not being able to eliminate it, then what would make it any different for adults. To many of these drugs that is being offered to day have to may side affects potentials. While you may fix one health problem you are at risk for another. Not something I want to face. READ ON: PLEASE…

    Vaccination Risk Awareness Network
    Biochemical Toxicity Studies
    In my laboratory we have recently done an evaluation of the potential in vitro toxicity of vaccines containing thimerosal as a “preservative” versus those vaccines not containing thimerosal. In these preliminary studies, vaccines with thimerosal added consistently demonstrated in vitro toxicity that was markedly greater than the non thimerosal or low thimerosal containing vaccines. We also compared the toxicity of the vaccine solutions with solutions of pure thimerosal and with solutions of mercury chloride. Mercury is a known neurotoxin and its mechanism of neurotoxicity has been studied in our laboratory for the past 10 years. To determine the relative toxicity we used two different biological testing systems: (i) brain homogenates and (ii) a mixture of four purified mammalian enzymes. In human brain homogenates we had earlier observed that mercuric ion rapidly inhibited tubulin viability at low micromolar levels. mimicking the situation in Alzheimer’s diseased brain, but was less toxic to actin (see Figures 1 & 2). Both tubulin and actin are polymerizing proteins that are actively involved in neurite growth cone activity. In contrast to mercuric ion, vaccines containing thimerosal inhibited both tubulin and actin viability (see Figure 3). This would indicate that thimerosal has the potential to be much more damaging to neurite development than equivalent levels of mercuric ion. It is my hypothesis that thimerosal releases ethyl mercury which most certainly interferes with neurite growth and neuronal development in infants through rapid inhibition of several thiol sensitive enzymes/proteins including actin, tubulin and creatine kinase. This supports the concept that thimerosal in biological solutions injected into the human body could cause a number of systemic problems identified as disease states.

    Found on the FDA site
    Vaccines, Blood & Biologics
    One final piece of data regarding thimerosal is worth noting. At the initial National Vaccine Advisory Committee-sponsored meeting on thimerosal in 1999, concerns were expressed that infants may lack the ability to eliminate mercury. More recent NIAID-supported studies at the University of Rochester and National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, MD examined levels of mercury in blood and other samples from infants who had received routine immunizations with thimerosal-containing vaccines. [Pichichero ME, et al. Lancet 360:1737-1741 (2002)] Blood levels of mercury did not exceed safety guidelines for methyl mercury for all infants in these studies. Further, mercury was cleared from the blood in infants exposed to thimerosal faster than would be predicted for methyl mercury; infants excreted significant amounts of mercury in stool after thimerosal exposure, thus removing mercury from their bodies. These results suggest that there are differences in the way that thimerosal and methyl mercury are distributed, metabolized, and excreted. Thimerosal appears to be removed from the blood and body more rapidly than methyl mercury. NIAID is sponsoring a follow-up study with larger numbers of infants in Buenos Aires where thimerosal-containing vaccines are still administered to children. See "Related Links" below to find a link to the NIH/NIAID vaccines/thimerosal web site.

    As a precautionary measure, the Public Health Service (including the FDA, National Institutes of Health (NIH), Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) and the American Academy of Pediatrics issued two Joint Statements, urging vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal in vaccines as soon as possible (CDC 1999) and (CDC 2000). The U.S. Public Health Service agencies have collaborated with various investigators to initiate further studies to better understand any possible health effects from exposure to thimerosal in vaccines.

  28. Seriously I think some of these informational health sites try to scare people! I did notice that this one has an on-line store if that's any indication. I get a flu shot every year. First of all my husband was an insulin dependent diabetic. He had a pancreas/kidney transplant. The pancreas works fine which means he has to take immune suppressant drugs. The transplanted kidney worked for one month so he is currently a dialysis patient. I myself have RA and take Humura. Both my husband and I get a flue shot every year! Any one with chronic health problems or if you live with someone who has health problems should get a flu shot! Do you ever notice the posters at the doctors office that says "If you have diabetes a flu shot can save your life!" Think about it people…

  29. Bryan Joyce
  30. I am a nurse and have never had the flu. Ive been exposed to it many times, along with meningitis and TB, etc. My immune system is amazing (knock on wood) and Ive never had a flu shot and will never get one. I did extensive research when my baby was born, to make an educated decision regarding vaccines to ensure her safety (with knowledge that isnt biased by any medical profession who are trained to believe and force the issue by FDA). I will not post a facebook research paper on here with my findings, but what I learned stunned me. yes, some vaccines are very very dangerous. Some are obviously good (and needed), but some are not and it would amaze you if you dug deeply and learned what they are made of, where the ingredients come from, what they do to your body/brain, long term effects, etc. the risky ones are the "super-vaccines" which contain multiple vaccines in one. MMR for example. Please research and make your own decision, but make sure its reputable sources. You will find opposing view all over the internet. Look for proof and validation of everything you read.

  31. Dawne Killing-Kornhaas

    Melissa Barron Brooks My dad also passed away from flu like complications after receiving the flu vaccine other than that he was a healthy man. He received the vaccine because he was a volunteer at a local hospital and it was mandatory. I caught the flu just this past winter for the first time in my life and guess what? I recovered because I stay healthy by eating right and keeping active and I now have complete immunity to that strain of flu. I still refuse to get the flu shot and until there is a 100% guarantee that it or any vaccine is completely safe, I am refusing until then. But this article i will admit needs references to back it up. If the author is going to claim fact he/she needs to provide resources.

  32. Leslie Wilson Penkunas

    Thank you, James!! I just saw a friend paste this misleading, misguided, and harmful article on her FB page. I cringe when I see people buying into this b.s. that the flu shot is worse than the flu! of course, they won't bother reading your retort.

  33. Tracey Taylor

    even if you are vaccinated and someone cant be you can still be contagious by whats called vaccine shedding.so therefore you can pass it on to them.

  34. Jacqueline Nicole

    So many things have changed in addition to the vaccination schedule, such as our food products we eat… our lifestyles. I don't think a correlation is enough evidence to prove anything.

  35. best part of article is: Isn’t it interesting that the main stream public health officials never promote the various proven ways to avoid the flu other than through vaccination? How about spending some of the billions of advertising dollars teaching us natural ways to boost our immune systems and avoid the flu without harmful and sometimes deadly vaccinations.

    Source: Bewellbuzz.com

  36. Laurie Boyack Shipley

    And what of the thousands of health care workers who must get this shot in order to keep their jobs? Or, if lucky, some are allowed to wear masks while they work if they don't get the flu shot. I don't know about you, but wearing a mask for 8-12 hours 5 days a week or more can get quite uncomfortable. It's hard to breathe in one for an hour!!! Any thoughts regarding this problem?

  37. Angels Forthecure Abide

    The flu shot has not been a live virus shot for a couple years now , where are you getting your info … My son was never allergic to it until they combined the H1N1 shot together with the regular shot … He had gotten hives and can no longer get it …

  38. Nikki Marie

    Last time I had a flu shot was about 10 years ago when I was a teen, and I got the sickest I've ever been in my life. There is no way in hell I would EVER allow my sons to have this or any vaccine. If you look at the ingredients and then think about little people and their fragile little immune systems, you would see that something isn't right. If you fed your child mercury, aluminum, animal DNA, formaldehyde, you would be in jail. But it's okay to inject it in their bloodstreams? For immunity?! How about you eat a clean fucking diet and take care of yourself/your kids? Natural immunity is the strongest immunity. Breastfeed your babies and quit eating processed garbage. My kids fight sicknesses without any medicine at all and they are in perfect health. The ignorant comments I'm reading on here sadden me, it's kind of pathetic how easily some of you swallow the propaganda you are fed.

  39. Susan Goltra Judge

    James, maybe its the pop culture in me, but what is the driving force behind your engagement regarding this issue?

  40. To the person who wrote this article I recommend reading a bit more about medicine and the history of vaccines, what are vaccines (because yes, they live virus and not even know it is because he is ignorant).
    Just add one more thing: what doctors are supporting this study, what, how many and which are the studies on which this article is based. In real science when writing an article should specify on which you rely.
    And finally, green fans who believe this kind of nonsense, really prefer that chronically ill or people in the risk groups are at risk of contracting the disease and its complications?
    This article makes it clear how far human stupidity.

  41. Jemimah Wilson

    It's true. In the past when I had a flu injections I got the sick the next day of .. Guess what? flu. Since then my doctor stop giving me flu injections.

  42. Tina Wayland instead of vaccinating against EVERYTHING, feed your children clean food that builds their immune system. Oh wait… that's difficult to do because our food supply is being destroyed. People can do their own research. This is not a junk science article. This is an opinion article that provides points for people to research. Do you know the ingredients? Most people have no clue but get their infants shot up with it without reading the label.

  43. Renee Marie

    Colleen Truland – Every single word in this article can be verified. Get off your duff and research every single fact. And pre plan your hubbys funeral, he will "mysteriously" have complication "ironically" following a vaccine.

  44. Hub Freeman

    I have spent 40 years as a nurse, and watched countless people die from the flu…but NEVER saw anyone die from a flu shot. There are a lot of well-meaning people out there promoting BAD information…sometimes only get get themselves a name. These quacks are DANGEROUS…like some religious zealots who refuse to vaccinate their children. The same claims were made about polio and smallpox vaccinations!

  45. Sue Hay

    Sharon Weeks-Maupin The article cites 15 references at the bottom of that page (the original article) and if you really care, you can click on each of those references until you find the actual studies. But you don't care, do you? Because we could show you all the studies in the world and it would not change your "belief" and "faith" in your religion…the church of biological mysticism.

  46. Sarina Kosewsky

    I am not saying that I agree with the article but in defence of Jesse Mabry, not only is the source of the article mentioned – if you go to it – it lists 15 sources that make up the article. Even listing research isn't always reliable – many experts do experiments and disagree with each other. Therefore at the end of the day the individual armed with various bits of information must make a decision – and not blame others if they are not willing to do that

  47. Sue Hay

    You consider Wikipedia a source of reliable information? Who are you kidding? They're just parroting the CDC's made-up statistics, which are mostly pneumonia deaths, which the CDC conveniently includes in with the 262 actual confirmed influenza deaths.

  48. Maryann Olear

    obviously you or anyone you know has not been vaccine injured. Until you personally witness how dangerous the flu vac is (and also typical children's vacs) you and conventional medicine cannot or will not understand it's dangers. And lets not forget about the profits big pharma makes off of this poison it tells you to inject into your body.

  49. Yuriy Sh

    When you write articles like this please include references after statements such as "mounting evidence" because this is complete propaganda. There used to be ~50,000 cases of polio per year in early 1900, massive paralyses and deaths. Thanks to vaccination doctors don't even learn about polio in medical schools anymore.

    Why don't we all just go back and live in a cave because that is what you are advocating.

  50. Neil Murrell

    Renee Marie – Charming. And, frankly, rather lazy. The author of this article couldn't be bothered citing his sources and neither, it seems, can you. Tell you what, since you're the one making all these grand claims, and since Colleen, I, and others are the people you are presumably trying to convince, why don't you "get off your duff" and give us a few cites?

  51. Neil Murrell

    Maryann Olear – I'm not big on anecdotal evidence because, frankly, it's pretty useless and, since we don't know eachother here, there's no guarantee we're not all just making shit up. But, for what little it's worth, I had the flu vaccine last year and I was absolutely fine. Didn't have so much as a sniffle. Neither did my parents.

    And on the subject of profits, did you notice the little button at the top of this website that says 'Online Store'? The alternative health industry is worth an estimated thirty billion dollars a year (http://tinyurl.com/ngrb53). Not a patch on "Big Pharma", admittedly, but still a pretty hefty chunk of change. Is it so inconceivable that purveyors of naturopathic medicine can also be corrupted by the promise of profit?

  52. Neil Murrell

    Sue Hay – Tell me, since the CDC are the organisation most responsible for collating flu mortality statistics, and the organisation with the most experience and expertise in doing so, if their word isn't good enough who exactly would you believe?

    The CDC is actually unstintingly honest in their appraisal of annual flu deaths. They make it quite clear on their website that they don't know exactly how many people die annually from the flu (which makes me wonder how, if THEY don't know, you arrived at your conspicuously precise figure of 262). Here's the link, if you're interested (http://tinyurl.com/ol6c4ab).

    Also, it's known that pneumonia is a common complication of influenza, especially in the elderly. It stands to reason that if a vaccinated person doesn't catch the flu in the first place, he's much less likely to come down with pneumonia. To discount the deaths of the thousands of people who die of pneumonia that they contract as a direct consequence of the flu is, frankly, a little disingenuous. By your logic, it would be correct to say that few people ever die from Lou Gehrigs disease. In the most technical and pedantic sense possible, that's actually the truth. About half of Lou Gehrigs patients actually die from pneumonia (http://tinyurl.com/nu3ca37). Many others die from choking on their food/saliva (due to a weakened swallowing reflex) and still others die from accidents caused by their incipient paralysis. But we all know that these people wouldn't suffer such fates if they didn't have Lou Gehrigs in the first place. Consequently, anyone who actually said in public that Lou Gehrigs disease is rarely fatal would be laughed off whatever podium he was speaking from.

    The same is true here. We know that the majority of flu deaths are caused, not strictly by the flu itself, but by other diseases one catches as a direct consequence of the flu. We know this because some strains of flu are deadlier than others, and in the years where the deadlier strains predominate, deaths from influenza AND pneumonia both go up relative to those years with more benign strains. Of course, if a person is vaccinated against the flu in the first place, they don't have to worry about succumbing to such secondary conditions.

  53. Joel H Ketola

    Other than the fact that if the publish the "wrong information" they get fired…. DO YOUR RESEARCH, BEFORE YOU MAKE CRAZY ASSUMPTIONS!

  54. Neil Murrell

    Joel H Ketola – I assume (and forgive me if I'm wrong) that you're talking about mainstream scientists. Do you have any examples of scientists being fired for publishing the "wrong information"? If you do, do you have any evidence that there was any truth in their writings? For example, a small minority of people – and I'm not in the least bit ashamed to call them "cranks" – argue that AIDS is not caused by HIV. It doesn't matter how many millions of people contract HIV and subsequently develop AIDS, and it doesn't matter that (to the best of my knowledge, at least) there is not a single recorded instance of a person developing AIDS without contracting HIV beforehand, these people continue to insist that one has nothing to do with the other.

    Now, if I were a scientist employed by a reputable institution, and I published an essay arguing that HIV and AIDS were unrelated and substantiated my contention with flimsy evidence and bad logic, I might well be fired. But it wouldn't be because I was "breaking the rules" or anything like that. It'd be because I was talking bullshit.

    What I'm getting at is that this idea that scientists have to say what they're told doesn't make any sense. Scientists have to adhere to the facts. If a scientist refuses to adhere to the facts, and doesn't bring along any new facts of his own then, yes, he can expect to be criticised, ridiculed, or even dismissed. And that's a good thing.

    Think about the infamous Wakefield vaccine study which allegedly showed a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Every single one of Wakefield's claims, without exception, has been clearly and simply debunked by other scientists. This was easy, because Wakefield (a) faked some of his data, (b) cherry-picked the subjects he studied to help guarantee the results he wanted, and (c) drew inferences when he shouldn't have done using bad logic. If Wakefield had come to the table armed with cast-iron, irrefutable facts, he'd still have a job. Indeed, he'd be regarded as a hero instead of a fraud. He didn't have the facts, so he got fired. Plenty of other scientists tried to replicate his findings and they all failed. If he'd had facts, they wouldn't have failed. If the "accepted narrative" doesn't match the facts, it won't last. Every single scientific revolution our species has experienced, from the theory of evolution, to the germ theory of disease, to the theory of an inflationary universe, to the demise of the "miasma" theory, and the debunking of the luminiferous ether theory of light propagation, is proof of this. The right information is the information supported by the most facts. The wrong information is the information without any facts. And a scientist who publishes the wrong information without bringing any new facts to the table deserves whatever he gets.

  55. Preach on, Kathleen! It's so important people know the story behind the story when it comes to their health. As you and I both know, the path to health is about strengthening, not diminishing the body's immune system.

  56. I teach an Infectious Diseases class and I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you James. There is a lot of misinformation out there about vaccinations and it starts with simplistic "articles" like this one that spread absolute fallacies with no scientific evidence to back them up.

  57. Babies get more aluminum from breast milk than they would from the flu vaccine. You have animal DNA in your body and its in absolutely everything that you eat. You make formaldehyde in greater abundance in your own body than is included in the shot as a preservative, it's put in there so no bacteria will grow in the vaccine before you receive it. I guarantee you would rather have a minute amount of formaldehyde in your body than bacteria introduced to your blood stream. Natural immunity is not the strongest immunity or there would be no need for vaccines in the first place. Small pox, polio, flu of 1918, measles, etc. would have never been a problem, right?! You can't fight a virus with a good diet. It simply doesn't work that way. Your cod fish oil or whatever it is that you take has no defense against a virus using your cells as a host.

  58. Brian Knispel

    Ah… Didn't anyone notice they're also trying to sell you something (lots of things) on the source page?… And that the source page doesn't reference any medical pages like JAMA or any peer reviewed studies? Marketing through FUD – fear, uncertainty, and doubt…. Eat your veggies and exercise and you'll be fine ;)

  59. Bewellbuzz is Not a medical page. I worked in a doc office, friends with nurses who have to keep updating their knowledge, and in Canada they DO NOT inject the virus into you. This is just poppycock! Yes at the practice I worked at a % of ppl who got sick of 10 would be 3. This is just silly…I dunno maybe Canadian Medicine is different, I don't know. But this is my thought on this silly story!!

  60. Rosemarie C Rottert

    Melissa Barron Brooks Sorry for your loss but the flu vaccine did NOT kill your father. The flu vaccine is a KILLED virus that CANNOT infect you. It simply cannot. It is dead. Inert.
    When someone receives the flu shot, it is the proteins from the killed virus that activate the immune system to create antibodies against the particular strain of flu contained in the immunization. The virus does NOT need to be alive for the body to react to what it deems is a potential threat. The fact that your father got sick after having had the flu shot does not prove the shot itself is what made him sick.
    It can take up to two weeks or even up to a month (in older individuals with slower, older immune systems) for an individual to develop antibodies against the flu strain in the shot. Likewise, the incubation period for the influenza virus after someone is infected is similar-about 7-14 days. An individual can be exposed to the flu PRIOR TO being vaccinated and develop the flu during the time immediately following receiving the flu shot before the body has had a chance to develop antibodies.
    The above only holds true if the individual receives the flu SHOT. If someone gets the inhaled nasal flu vaccination, that IS live virus. That is why someone who has received the nasal form should stay away from immunocompromised people, babies, the elderly, etc.
    If your father was TESTED for the flu with a nasal swab and the test showed he indeed did have the flu and this wasn’t just a case of guessing that what it was on the part of nurses or other staff, then I suspect that:
    1. Your father could have been exposed to the flu BEFORE he was vaccinated. OR
    2. Your father was exposed to a strain of flu that was NOT in the flu shot he received. OR
    3. Your father was exposed to the flu after getting the flu shot but before his body having had time to develop antibodies.
    While I definitely do feel for you and do understand the pain of your loss (my father died when I was 24), please don’t spread misinformation. To say that the flu shot made your dad sick and killed him IS misinformation. I know you don’t want to harm other people but there are a lot of people who read articles and comments such as these who are too quick to believe just anything.

    As a nurse practitioner who works in long term care, I personally see the devastating effects of influenza every, single winter. Influenza can and does kill. Influenza can and does lead to pneumonia, especially in the very young and older individuals.

    While the flu shot is no “magic bullet,” it is still very important to prevention. No, the flu shot cannot protect you against every possible influenza virus. The virus has many strains and these strains are constantly changing every year. It is IMPOSSIBLE for current science to develop a vaccine for the flu giving 100% coverage. But we do the very best we can and continue to recommend the flu vaccine.

    The flu vaccine is important. But the best way to avoid getting sick is to wage your own preventive war against the flu: get enough sleep, eat a healthy diet, WASH YOUR HANDS WASH YOUR HANDS WASH YOUR HANDS (Did I mention washing your hands??) and keep your fingers and hands out of your mouth, eyes and nose. Doorknobs, phones, hand rails, gas pumps, ATM machines, etc are all public places where the flu virus LOVES to hang out. I suggest carrying hand sanitizer with you. Get a small bottle to carry on your person if you are not going to be at a place where you can wash your hands. USE IT. Don’t live in fear but just use common sense.

    And please please please. Stop spreading misinformation. Thanks.

  61. Rosemarie C Rottert

    The references listed are NOT scientific articles in refereed journals. Angelfire? Shirleys Wellness Café? Chetday? Tribe.net? Articlecity? Does it concern anyone else that the writer has gotten his or her information from a variety of non-scientific websites that are NOT based on research?? Yes, there is indeed a reference list. I guess because I have been educated in what to look for I know not to trust sites and articles such as these for important information. Just because someone states where they got their "facts" from does NOT mean that the facts are really facts at all. Some of it is based on "junk science" and a lot of it is anti-establishment, hippy, new age garbage and some of it is just pure emotion. I am so very tired of the constant comments about "I know this one who got the flu after getting the shot!" THE FLU VACCINE IS MADE FROM KILLED VIRUS. IT IS DEAD. IT CAN NO LONGER HURT YOU. Case Closed. Now, please keep your misinformation to yourself.

  62. Kevin Roberts

    James, excuse me sir you are wrong. Your body does not build up Anti bodies. As you stated in #3. We have Pro bodies, antibiotics kill your pro bodies. Learn how to build a healthy immune system and you don't need to take a stinking flu shot. I have met thousands of people who disagree with taking flu shots and they are the smart one's.

  63. Neil Murrell

    Kevin Roberts – There are thousands, no, millions of people who think the earth is six thousand years old. The fact that thousands of people think something is meaningless. It's perfectly possible for thousands of people to be wrong. In fact, it happens all the time. Thousands of people think we never landed on the moon. Thousands more think that JFK was murdered by the Teamsters. Millions of people think that the mastermind behind 9/11 was not Osama Bin Laden (who's on tape SAYING "I was the mastermind" and laughing about it), but Dick Cheney. Holocaust deniers, Reptilians, Illuminati fantasists, they all exist in their tens of thousands, but that doesn't mean they're right about anything.

    Speaking generally, now, I must say I find it both amusing and slightly irritating that this thread has grown so long without the author of this article (or anyone who agrees with him) providing a reputable cite demonstrating that the dangers of the flu vaccine (whatever they may be) outweigh the benefits. Could anyone oblige? At least then we'd have something concrete to argue about. Cheers.

  64. I do not need to have sources, I am one! I have gotten sick for weeks or months after I got any kind of flu shot. I am only a private citizen; I'm not trained in medicine. I don't have any reference material for you. What I am going to say is only a statement; this article is not intended to prove anything to anyone. It is intended to open up doubt; legitimate doubt. Basically, its flat out wrong that the only people who are promoting the vaccine stand to gain profits from their sales. And while it is true that a certain percentage of the population benefit from the flu shot, it is also true that those same vaccines stand a change of making the flu strains stronger. For myself, it don't need to even look at these kinds of articles – although I do to stay up with the times – because I know for myself that the vaccines are worse than the illness. I have asthma and I have been pushed to get a flu shot to prevent getting sick all my life, but typically the flu – IF TREATED PROPERLY – lasts only three weeks. The vaccines put me in bed for closer to two months.

  65. I do not need to have sources, I am one! I have gotten sick for weeks or months after I got any kind of flu shot. I am only a private citizen; I'm not trained in medicine. I don't have any reference material for you. What I am going to say is only a statement; this article is not intended to prove anything to anyone. It is intended to open up doubt; legitimate doubt. Basically, its flat out wrong that the only people who are promoting the vaccine stand to gain profits from their sales. And while it is true that a certain percentage of the population benefit from the flu shot, it is also true that those same vaccines stand a change of making the flu strains stronger. For myself, it don't need to even look at these kinds of articles – although I do to stay up with the times – because I know for myself that the vaccines are worse than the illness. I have asthma and I have been pushed to get a flu shot to prevent getting sick all my life, but typically the flu – IF TREATED PROPERLY – lasts only three weeks. The vaccines put me in bed for closer to two months.

  66. My husband also, after never getting a Flu shot, got one in 2010 and 2 wks. after getting it came down with numbness in his hands & feet, to where he could not hold onto anything w/his hands and started having trouble walking. After being hospitalized and many tests later he was diagnosed w/ Guillain Barre' Syndrome, a side effect of the flu shot. Took me to do everything for him (feed, dress, etc.) and 8 mos. of rehabilitation to be able to use his hands again and walk. Still wasn't a 100% w/his walking but at least he didn't need a walker anymore! Never again for him!

  67. Mindy Edwards-King

    In 2007 I was struck by Transverse Myelitis soon after getting the Flu shot one of my Neurologists concluded the shot was the cause.

  68. Kim Joyce

    I was immunosuppressed by a swine flu vac – I got Gullian Barre from it. My daughter got Whooping cough from the HepB & my niece DIED from baby vaccines.

  69. Kim Joyce

    Mildred Russoniello I did too…. later I got a tetanus & it came back with a vengeance – took my eye sight – it was 27 yrs between bouts & when it reoccurred they gave it a new name – CIDP… Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating Polyneurapathy – 3 months waiting for a diagnoses that drained my insurance – 1 yr of therapy & it was 1 yr before I could dance or ride bicycle again. Scary stuff.

  70. I am 50 years old and used to get the flu every year down and out for over a week without being able to get out of bed , since the flu shots were available I've been getting them and have not gotten the strain of flu whatever it was again so I'm blessed that I only get a minor cold although that's no fun either but the flu is ten times worse

  71. Susie Kaye Richter

    thank you. as a child of the polio, chicken pox, whooping cough, measles, german measles, mumps generation, i am horrified that any parent would take the risk of not immunizing their child. vaccines now, are all dead viruses. you cannot get the illness from the vaccine. protect your children whenever possible. dose them with vitamin c, use baby echinasea drops, pray, whatever else might be helpful, but don't deny your child lifesaving vaccines.

  72. Dena Johnson

    If you want sources for actual studies, go to http://www.mercola.com and check his info on vaccines in general. He is very thorough in his references to where his information comes from, AND he is a licensed medical practitioner.

  73. Kathy Frost O'Brien

    I'm a healthcare worker for 30 years and never got the flu shot until one year when I got the flu. I've gotten the vaccine every year since for 27 yrs and have never had the flu or all these reactions that everyone worries about. I have however watched many man people die from the flu. People need to make decisions on facts, not these silly little articles that pop up every flu season.

  74. That is scary when someone (employer or government) can force you to get a foreign substance injected into your body when you would choose otherwise. I'm not big into conspiracy theories BUT…

  75. Rosetta Stoll

    Noelle Childress ..yeah, but talk to Banner Health, I heard it's a requirement if you work for them :/

  76. Please don't trust your health and medical guidance to "Healthy Living". Vaccinate your children so they don't get polio, hepatitis B, or the flu. Whoever wrote this article needs to be choked and/or die from the flu. Note there are zero scientific references to support any of the dangerously misguided claims. I would recommend starting with the CDC's Influenza Fact Sheet (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.html)

    Which studies say vaccines are no more effective than placebo?? Reference please? Would be surprised to see a robust clinical study that contradicts the efficacy of vaccination, a foundation of modern medicine responsible for the near global eradication of smallpox, measles, and polio. Yes, there are hundreds of viruses that cause the flu, new strains appear every year due to mutations and the vaccine does not protect against all strains. The vaccine must be prepared ahead of time based on the best guess of which viral strains are most likely to circulate in a population and cause illness. Efficacy of influenza vaccines ranges from 70 to 90% in years the vaccine antigens match the major strains, 0 to 50% when it's a poor match (Prevention and control of influenza, 2008. MMWR Recomm Rep 2008;57:1-60)1). Bottom line is the vaccine significantly reduces cases of illness, hospitalizations, and death.

    2) "Medical journals have published thousands of articles revealing that injecting vaccines can actually lead to serious health problems including harmful immunological responses and a host of other infections."
    Medical journals written by Jenny McCarthy? Thousands of articles? Name one. How could a sterile vaccine possibly lead to a "host of other infections". The definition and sole purpose of a vaccine is to create an "immunological response".

    3.) "Ever noticed how vaccinated children within days or few weeks develop runny noses? The reason is the flu virus introduced in their bodies creates these symptoms, indicates immuno-suppression."
    You get a sore arm at the site of injection for 1-2 days. Some flu vaccines are administered as a nasal spray, resulting in a runny nose. Like any form of medicine, there are extremely rare cases of complications. A runny nose, sore arm, or elevated temperature is your body mounting an immune response, the intended result of a vaccine referred to by this author as "symptoms" and "immuno-suppression".

    4.) "Its a known fact that Flu vaccines contain strains of the flu virus along with other ingredients."
    The flu vaccine contains dead or inactivated virus = no live virus. These are protein fragments that will induce memory immune cells to recognize the live virus should your body encounter it. You can not get the flu from the vaccine, period. You may get "symptoms" which are your body reacting to a foreign antigen and forming memory immune cells that will protect you in the future.

    5.) "The Flu vaccines contain mercury, a heavy metal known to be hazardous for human health."
    Mercury is linked to nervous system damage, the reason for limiting intake of certain types of fish. Large bottles of vaccine contain a small amount of thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative never shown to cause any harm. The controversy arose because a british doctor manipulated his data and said the mercury preservative was causing autism. This link was disproven and the doctor was stripped of his medical license for falsifying his research. Also, you can ask for mercury-free vaccines packaged in single doses.

    6.) "There is mounting evidence that flu shots can cause Alzheimer’s disease. One report shows that people who received the flu vaccine had a 10-fold greater chance. Introducing the flu virus in the bodies of elderly could have dangerous consequences."
    10-fold greater chance of developing alzheimers!? 10-fold? And where is this "report"? After a certain age, chances of getting alzheimer's reach about 66%. So getting a flu-shot raises your chances to 660%?? More importantly, the majority of deaths caused by the flu occur in the elderly (>90%). Vaccination of elderly populations and those who work around them (i.e. caregivers) prevents spread of the virus, reducing severe illnesses and complications by up to 60% and deaths by 80% (World Health Organization). The vaccine is not "introducing the flu virus in the bodies of elderly", it does not infect you, it offers your best chance at mounting an effective response against infection with the actual virus.

    "Can we trust the authorities who are promoting the wide-spread use of flu vaccines?"
    This is equivalent to saying "can we trust doctors with our health care?". Literally. Good luck if you think you are better off on your own with your milk thistle and aromatherapy.

    7.) "It’s all about the money and may have very little to do with your health and well being. The very people pushing these vaccines stand to make billions of dollars."
    Possibly the most ignorant claim in the entire article. The people who created anti-convulsants to control your child's epilepsy or the surgeons who perform live-saving heart surgery on your father also stand to recoup a small portion of their lifetime investment into advancing medicine.

    8.) "Research shows that overuse of the flu vaccine can alter flu viruses and cause them to mutate into a more deadly strain…virtually no benefits with much risk."
    The influenza virus has an error-prone copying mechanism and mutates frequently and naturally without any selective pressure, it's called antigenic drift. No benefits? Similar to other viruses, the influenza vaccine is responsible for dramatically reducing the worldwide burden of disease.

    9.) "In the 1976 swine flu outbreak, many who got the flu shots developed permanent nerve damage."
    In the 1970s the US government was also observing the progression of untreated syphilis in African American men told they were receiving free health care. Medicine has come a long way in 40 years. The nerve damage repeatedly mentioned by this author is alluding to Guillain-Barre syndrome, a naturally occuring but very rare nerve disorder, which also due to the advance of medicine is now largely treatable (80% make a complete recovery with treatment). The 1976 batch of vaccines was linked to increased incidence of this syndrome. A 2009 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most respected clinical journals in the world, found eleven cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome in over 100 million doses of vaccine against the swine flu, lower than the normal rate of disease in the unvaccinated population and concluded "the risk-benefit ratio, which is what vaccines and everything in medicine is about, is overwhelmingly in favor of vaccination."

    10.) "Trying to guess what strain to vaccinate against each season has proved to be no more effective than a guessing game."
    Stupid. Just stupid. Efficacy hovers around 70%, prevents hospitalization and death. This author continually and incorrectly insists that viruses are being introduced into the body, desperately trying to encourage misinformation. Small, inactivated and harmless pieces of virus are introduced. The "ingredients" are only harmful if you are allergic to eggs because the vaccines are cultured inside chicken eggs.

  77. I'll get the flu naturally thank you very much. Don't need it injected (with all the other junk that comes along with it) if it doesn't prevent it. NEVER got the flu shot, NEVER will. My immune system is kicking ass all on it's own (I'm 60 by the way :) )

  78. Tina Wayland So if this is so true, that the vaccine is NOT harmful, then there should be NO harm in demanding from your health care provider to know EXACTLY what all is in it, but when questioned, they don't tell you, simply, dead strains of the virus and nothing else, not buying it, EVERYTHING ALWAYS has something else in it, and they aren't telling you what it is, there HAS to be a reason they aren't telling me, I don't profess to know or believe what I have read on the net, but there lack of forthcoming with the information tells me there must be some pretty nasty stuff in that injection besides some strains of dead virus.

  79. steve u can't get the flu from a dead virus,,,they dont give live flu virus…come on..u were already carrying the flu if u get it after the shot…..simple as that……..its people who aren't careful who spread the flu to every one any ways……..people go out and don,t care who they give there nasty germs to.

  80. James Connolly

    @Susan re: Driving force?

    You asked my interest in vaccines – it came about completely by accident – I am dedicated to providing clean drinking water and sanitation for children around the world (not me personally, but I follow water-based charities and give as much as I can).

    It turns out that eradicating disease and ameliorating living conditions for entire communities begins with clean water. Once that's in place, secondary ailments become a concern (malaria, polio, influenza, pneumonia, yellow fever, HIV, chicken pox, measles).

    What's more scary/enlightening is that vaccinations work "on the whole" meaning that if the whole population is vaccinated, then pretty soon no one will have the disease (smallpox, for example). Unfortunately, it's a societal thing: not everyone will be immune from the vaccine (most will). Society as a whole benefits, but individuals may not. Then it becomes a problem of "individual good" vs. "society's good".

    For example, with the influenza vaccine, if everyone gets it, then the overall rate of influenza incidence in a population seriously decreases, medical costs on society are lower, and people go about their lives unhindered by the burden of weeks in hospital (or at home) sick.

    But no one knows "who" will be the beneficiary. We can't predict who would have been the ones to be infected and then say, a-ha, you were saved by the vaccine. All we know is that that society is much better off (as a whole) when everyone is vaccinated.

    I find it particularly challenging as an ethical and social problem: we can't guarantee that a vaccine will work for an individual, we can only hope. But every additional person vaccinated adds to a statistically significant benefit to society.

    So, do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one? Who can say? Who has the right to say?

    I choose to be vaccinated because the odds are definitely in my favour. The benefits/risk ratio is so far tipped in my favour, that I'd be stupid not to go for it; however, that doesn't afford me the right to impose this same choice on others.

    People are free to do what they want: fear-based, rational or irrational, it doesn't matter. We can't prove a possibility (you got the vaccine, so you didn't get the disease you would have gotten). We can only see the effects on the health of society as a whole (in this case, city-wide).

    My choice to be vaccinated is a gift to myself and to the people who live around me – a choice to increase the overall health of my community. I hope I benefit from the choice. I may not. That's the risk for me. And I think it's worth it.

  81. Stan Bylsma

    Tina Wayland Please do some research before you comment. Your ignorance is showing very clearly. Perhaps stop reading propaganda that the manufacturers of the vaccines are putting out and take a closer look at the results and damage that is being done. There is never a good reason to vaccinate. It's a sales job period. Research the ingredients of the vaccination shots. Ask the doctor for the msds (material data safety sheet) Why is it considered to be a hazardous material when transporting this stuff?. Ask a truck driver about this. They know about msds He will get angry. Would you take any one elses meds? Why is this crap suddenly good for the herd? The mercury alone is more than enough reason to never put this crap in your body along with amalgam fillings. A friend was fired for informing people of the ingredients before they made their choice to vaccinate. Why would a nurse be fired for this? All they did was tell the truth. It hurt sales. no other reason. Don't believe the lies you have been told because you are in a comfort zone. Take it upon yourself to do the research. Your health is your responsibility. The pharmaceutical companies do NOT adhere to the Hippocratic oath nor could they if the hoped to stay in business.

  82. I don't get the flu shot, though my employer pays ever year for those wanting it. I do know my husband got the flu shot several years ago and ended up very sick and in bed for more than a week. It seems that most of those I know of that get this shot are usually sick within days of getting the thing. What sense does that make. I think that if you take everyday precautions, your chances of getting the flu are slim. I've had the flu twice in my life and recovered just fine. I'm sure it hits people differently as everyone is different but I believe proper medication and rest is the key to recovery. It is a shame that some folks cannot afford medication of any kind and therefore suffer more than others and yes, unfortunately die. It is also unfortunate that some employers demand their employees to get these shots. Were that the case with me, they would just have to fire me because I will not volunteer to get a shot just because someone says it works. If my doctor does not recommend it, I won't get it. It's that simple. People should be able to judge for themselves what they do or not do. There are shots now for almost anything imaginable but do they work? Judge for yourself.

  83. Harriett Ledwidge

    Much prefer to be safe than sorry, we are exposed to too many chemicals daily, so no point in having another injected into us. Hate NEEDLES anyway, if it was in tablet form, MIGHT reconsider…..only might!!

  84. Harriett Ledwidge

    Tina Wayland Disagree….not myths FACTS vaccines have caused brain damage in children, ADHD, numerous side effects in the aged…research somemore….I have my own proof!!

  85. Michael Gazaway

    Your better off eating healthy, exercising, and using organic foods and herbs to treat sickness like the flu. Im sure the vaccine works for some, put giving your body more natural medicine is always best in my opinion.

  86. Simon Burnett

    Total rubbish. Perhaps the most worrying statement is near the end – "Flu shots are indeed more dangerous than you could think, and it is best to rely on natural ways to protect against the flu rather than getting yourself vaccinated."
    The author wants you to buy his 'natural ways', when in fact there are none. Save your cash and ignore these cranks.

  87. Steve Mays

    I listened to you buddie , my glass is never full if u know what I mean :D I just feel if they cant tell me whats in why take it is all. People die with or without the flushot so I will roll my dice with nature and if its my time to go I will. I am no DR either but can explain the alzeiheimers thing or try to. The one thing they can tell u is that metals such as mercury are in a flu shot. Most tap water is compared to industrial waste and does contain fluoride. FLouride causes metals to go str8 to our brains. SO the metal from the injection and the fluoride in the water is a direct cause of alzheimers. please don't take my misspelling for ignorance just trying to help and I could be quite right. Flouride is also designed to block us from thinking properly, hitler used it and now we use it in the usa. A bottle of toothpaste cays contact a doctor if swallowed. 2 glasses of tap water has more fluoride than a single use of toothpaste. Hope I could help buddie and gl on research this is the information age and we are all getting smarter

  88. Steve Mays

    James Connolly . Then there is the argument if 500 kids get the vaccine, and are immune and my kid is the 1 single one that didn't , why is everyone scared of him they are immune right? They should hve nothing to worry about. Bro this is some scary stuff that the media withheld but is fact. Bill gates went to India hired Bollywood actors to promote an outlawed polio vaccine. It left 50,000 kids paralyzed and sterile and he never even had to answer to a cop or a family member. This is fact and u wull crap when u find out its true. So the vaccine game is not 100% perfect it truly is a money maker. Corporate makes a disease or sickness then sells the solution which isn't always safe that's my take. I admire your research and every post u have made, I really suggest you look into the bill gates thing its sad.

  89. Neil Murrell

    Myra Edwards – I did, and I do sincerely appreciate Nicole's effort. The trouble is that I asked for a cite for one specific claim: Do the costs of the flu vaccine outweigh the benefits? Now, as is clear from my posts, I think the benefits massively outweigh the costs. In America alone the flu claims, according to the CDC, an approximate average of about 36,000 lives a year (this varies quite widely from year to year as some flu strains are relatively benign while others are significantly more dangerous). For instance, in 2009-2010,a relatively mild year as far as I can ascertain, the CDC found that (http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm), "…between about 8,870 and 18,300 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April 2009 and April 10, 2010"

    Since Nicole didn't tell me what any of her links related to, I had a look at three at random. I found plenty about alleged dangers of the flu vaccine, but none that actually addressed the cost/benefit question. Moreover, I didn't consider the three links I checked to be particularly reliable. FYI, I chose the following three:

    http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Influenza.aspx
    http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/nosodes-homeopathic-alternative-to-vaccines/
    http://www.getholistichealth.com/37216/merck-vaccine-developer-admits-vaccines-routinely-contain-hidden-cancer-viruses-derived-from-diseased-monkeys/

    As I said, none of these three links addressed the specific question I wanted answered, and I didn't consider any of them to be very authoritative. One of them turned out to be written by Mike Adams, a man who manages to redefine "crazy" on a daily basis. If Mike Adams were to wish me good morning, the first thing I would do is go to my window to check that it actually WAS a good morning. Now, if you want me to explain exactly why I thought each of the three links I checked was unreliable, I'd be happy to do so. I warn you, however, that it would take a post long enough to make James Connolly's excellent post above look like a footnote. I don't mind. As you can tell by the length of my posts, I rather enjoy the sound of my own voice :-)

    Since going through each of Nicole's fifteen links and doing them justice would have eaten up all my free time for several days, and since the first three I happened to click on didn't answer my question, and since I didn't know for certain that any of the others would address my claim at all because Nicole didn't quote from any of them, I stopped at that point. I freely concede I may have chosen badly and one of her other links may fully answer all of my questions. But I'm not going to risk wasting any more time unless I know for sure. I don't need fifteen random links. I just need one good one.

  90. Neil Murrell

    Stan Bylsma – Warning: Long post ahead.

    Stan Bylsma – Poor Tina Wayland has come in for an awful lot of stick for her one, three line post in this thread. As she's probably got better things to do, I hope you won't mind if I have a crack at answering your questions instead.

    There is, first of all, an excellent reason to vaccinate. Vaccination dramatically reduces the incidence of fatal diseases. I'm English, and few places on earth are more plagued by vaccination controversies than England. Andrew Wakefield (or, to give him his full medical title, Andrew Wakefield), the ex-physician who first purported to have found a link between MMR and autism, is English and in recent years vaccination rates have dropped markedly as a result of his work.

    As MMR vaccination rates have dropped, predictably, cases of measles, mumps and rubella have sky-rocketed. In 2012-2013, there were severe outbreaks of measles all across the UK (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22277186). In total, 2000 children were infected, the highest number in 20 years. Measles has a fatality rate of 0.3%. That means that, statistically, 6 children died of measles last year who most likely otherwise wouldn't have done, had vaccination rates remained high.

    Viruses form chains of infection. First one person gets it, then another, then a few more, and so-on. If you sever the chain at any point then you stop the virus in its tracks. Vaccination is the best proven way to sever that chain.

    But why should everybody vaccinate? Well, the reason is that some people simply cannot be vaccinated. The reasons differ, depending on the vaccine, so let's stick with MMR for simplicity. There are certain people who, for several reasons, simply cannot receive the MMR vaccine. Babies under the age of 18 months, people with HIV, organ transplant recipients, and people with compromised immune systems cannot take the MMR vaccine. The reasons why people in these groups can't take the vaccine are also the same reasons why they'd be disproportionately likely to sicken and die if they were unfortunate enough to contract the diseases the MMR vaccine is supposed to prevent. It's common sense. People with immune systems so badly compromised they can't take the MMR vaccine, would, if they got measles, be far more likely to become seriously ill. If a cancer patient gets measles, he's far more likely to suffer severe consequences because chemotherapy weakens the immune system. If everybody vaccinates, these unlucky people are much, much less likely to get measels etc… in the first place. This is, of course, the "herd immunity" effect, and it only works if everybody plays. Incidentally, I can't take the MMR vaccine because it's manufactured using chicken embryos, and I'm anaphylactically allergic to eggs. So if you don't vaccinate, if, in other words, you don't contribute to breaking the chain, you're not just risking your health, you're risking mine as well.

    As for the alleged dangers, well, first of all it's worth noting that even if everything anti-vaxxers said about MMR was true (it isn't, but let's pretend), vaccination would STILL be a rational choice. Say what you want about the horrors of autism, nobody has ever died from it. Kids do die from measles. Mumps can make them go deaf and even blind. Rubella is a relatively harmless disease, unless you happen to be a pregnant woman, in which case you now have a 25% chance of delivering a stillborn child (http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1104.aspx?CategoryID=54). So these so-called "harmless" diseases can, in fact, be very harmful indeed if the wrong people get them.

    Fortunately, the alleged dangers of MMR have been shown to be unfounded. The biggest claim that anti-vaxxers make against MMR is that it causes autism. The reasons for WHY MMR allegedly causes autism differ, depending on who you ask, but the one which is currently en vogue is that the thimerosal preservatives which are added to the vaccine during manufacture have a damaging effect on the brain. (continued below)

  91. Neil Murrell

    Stan Bylsma – Part 2:

    Precisely how thimerosal could damage the brain in such a way has never been explained by anti-vaccinationists. When asked, most of them seem to be content to say "But…it's mercury!" and leave it at that. What they persistently fail to understand is that there are several kinds of mercury. Some are very dangerous, and some aren't. Thimerosal is one of the ones that isn't dangerous.

    Now, I assume that you, like most people, enjoy a drink every now and then. Whenever you have a beer, a cocktail, or a glass of wine, you are ingesting ethyl alcohol. Ethyl alcohol is, generally speaking, a fairly harmless substance. It gets you pleasantly relaxed, lowers your inhibitions, and, provided you don't go crazy with it, leaves you with nothing more than a hangover the next day. That's Ethyl alcohol.

    METHYL alcohol, on the other hand, which is only one molecule different from ethyl alcohol and is also known as methylated spirits, will make you go blind and possibly kill you if you have even a sip of it.

    When anti-vaccinationists say mercury is dangerous without differentiating between the kind of mercury you get in thermometers and the kind of mercury you get in vaccines, it's the same as saying "Alcohol makes you go blind" without differentiating between ethyl alcohol and methyl alcohol.

    The bad mercury, methylmercury, is dangerous because once you ingest it, it stays in your body for months. If you keep ingesting it it will build up and up and up until eventually it causes brain damage. Hat makers in the 19th century used to work with it, hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".

    Ethylmercury, also known as thimerosal, DOESN'T build up in your system. In fact, the body is able to purge it in a few days. Therefore, it never hangs around long enough to cause any damage (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs361/en/).

    Even if thimerosal did stay in your system the way methylmercury does, there are other reasons for doubting the validity of the mercury-autism connection. First of all, the symptoms of autism are completely different from the symptoms of methylmercury poisoning. Mercury poisoning causes burning nerve pain, skin shedding, and seizures, which children with autism don't get. Furthermore, new research is demonstrating that the symptoms of autism actually manifest a few weeks after birth. It's only been recently that we've known what to look for.

    But perhaps the most persuasive reason to believe that thimerosal is harmless is because, thanks to (frankly, uninformed) public outcry, many states in America have removed it from their vaccines. In Japan, they banned the MMR vaccine entirely. Now, if there was a link between thimerosal and autism, you would expect the rates of autism to go down now that thimerosal has been removed. But in 2005 a study of 30,000 Japanese children found that, despite the fact that the MMR jab hadn't been used for years, autism rates just kept going up (http://tinyurl.com/mgcero5). No anti-vaccinationist I've ever debated has ever been able to account for this.

    There's more, a study of nearly half a MILLION children in Denmark found no link between thimerosal and autism (http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=197365).

    Another study found that UNVACCINATED children were actually ever so slightly more likely to get autism than vaccinated kids (http://tinyurl.com/bw37zpt). Even if you dismiss this as a statistical anomaly, it does incontrovertibly demonstrate that there is no INCREASED risk posed by vaccination.

    I could go on like this all the live long day. There is no shortage of studies debunking the mythical relationship between thimerosal and autism. But really all is needed is a little common sense. Vaccine profit margins were, until very recently, actually quite low (http://www.economist.com/node/17258858). Until recently, drug companies have never really made all that much money off them. This has changed in the last couple of years thanks to improvements in technology, but for the last two decades, anti-vaxxers have been screaming blue murder about all the "Huge profits" Big Pharma have been making off vaccinations while, in fact, the profits have been slim to the point of being non-existent. Helping kids is profitable. Hurting them isn't. What more really needs to be said?

  92. Neil Murrell

    Part 3 (sorry!)

    P.S. – In case you're unaware (and many people seem to be, even in Britain where this stuff is regularly big news) Wakefield was banned from practising medicine in the UK by the GMC (General Medical Council) after his study was not only found to be fraudulent, but abusive to the children on which it was conducted (Wakefield performed unnecessary, dangerous, and extremely painful lumbar puncture tests on some of the 12 children he studied and wasn't able to give a good reason why when he was asked). Wakefield was also found to have strong financial ties to both a company producing single shot vaccines (which he advocated) and Richard Barr, a lawyer for an extremely wealthy firm called Alexander Harris which was, at the time, representing parents who wanted to sue vaccine manufacturers.

    P.P.S. – You wrote: "A friend was fired for informing people of the ingredients before they made their choice to vaccinate. Why would a nurse be fired for this?"

    Well, maybe, with all due respect to you and your friend, I would guess that it was probably because she was just a nurse, not a virology expert, probably didn't know all that much more about vaccination than the people she was talking to, and may well have been misinforming them. I honestly don't mean to be rude, but maybe one of the parents she was talking to realised she was speaking above her pay grade and complained about it? If it was MY kid, and I found a nurse talking about mercury in vaccines without differentiating between ethylmercury and methylmercury, I certainly would have complained.

    Or maybe she was always late for work. I don't know.

    P.P.S. – "Ask a truck driver about this. They know about msds He will get angry."

    I'd rather ask a scientist.

  93. Amanda Perkins

    I'm sorry but this is the worst "health" article. If this were submitted as a college paper it would be either denied or flunked. There are NO sources for any of these claims, no citations of any kind whatsoever. Where is the proof for all of these claims?

  94. Tawny Wagner

    True that if someone gets the flu after the shot, they were probably already carrying it. However, the human body has an immune system- which is perfectly capable of defending someone who takes care of their health. If they hadn't gotten the flu shot, their body more than likely would have fought off the flu on it's own. Source: personal experience. Every single time I cave in to the pressure of getting a flu shot, I get sick. On the occasions I haven't gotten the shot, I haven't gotten sick. Of course, it's different for everyone because people have different bodies and levels of health. I'm a firm believer that eating healthy, sleeping enough, and exercising is all your body needs to have a good natural immune system. People just love putting synthetic crap in their bodies these days.

  95. Dayle Hyatt Coutu

    Thanks for the article ! Wish people would just look around and use common sense and start to see the effects of all the vax. It's a shame some people are sheeplies

  96. Makaria Persephone Astaroth

    Thank you for this. You took the words right out of my mouth…er…brain. It's good to know there are still educated people with common sense out there who don't get their facts from Jenny McCarthy.

  97. Ann Dennis

    Jesse Mabry the sources listed are all more blogs and opinions it is to bad that real sources are not listed. We don't need fear we need real information.

  98. Larry Farell

    I won't dispute the claims for or against but what I will say is this: When the government constantly pushes for something(like they do this), and hospitals do the same(which have higher infection rates than a dirt floor operating room) I am very suspicious of it all!!! I have never gotten one and never will!! To many chemicals and too big a crap shop on what strain!!!

  99. Carrie Garbutt

    The reference is at the bottom of the article guy's ! Read people ! It sends you to the exact same article with about twenty actual medical articles !

  100. i thought the CDC guessed the "top three" viruses for the flu shot and they have NEVER been correct.

    Also, you do not find it odd that there has never been a study for ANY vaccine to show its efficacy versus non vaccinated populations?

  101. Nigel Rudlin
  102. Lauren Christie

    Says the person who has failed to do any kind of research into the matter herself, beyond reading what a couple of blogs written by people with no knowledge or qualifications on the subject. Honestly, there's not a single thing written here that is accurate – live virus in a flu shot? Sorry, but no. It's not really common sense if it's based completely in fallacies and outright lies.
    People look around and see the effects of all these vaccines all the time – ever notice how how people no longer have to watch their children die of polio and smallpox? Funny how anti-vax people never complain about not having to put their kids into an iron lung….

    People who get vaccinated aren't sheep. They're people who use their brain and who aren't selfish. Even if an illness has no effect on you, a strong, healthy person – you can still be a carrier for it. And if you pass a newborn, someone with an immune disorder, someone who has undergone cancer treatment or who has had an organ transplant…you will pass your illness onto them. And even if it's completely minor to most people, to them it might as well be the bubonic plague. Your refusal to get vaccinated can result in another persons death. Heck, it's how my classmates brother died. He spent years battling leukemia; he was finally in remission when someone in his class came to school with the measles – he hadn't had his shot. Of course, you don't know that you have measles until you have spots, but it's the time before the spots show that you are infectious. Said measles was passed onto this boy, who couldn't fight it off after all that chemo, and he died.

  103. Lauren Christie

    You're doing them a bigger favour by not getting vaccinated – things like flu shots actually lose them money (especially considering how many places give it out for free). What do you think will earn them more money? A vaccine, or a hospital stay requiring lots of medicine and other treatments after you contract the disease?

  104. Lauren Christie

    Tawny Wagner , the flu is not a cold. The flu kills hundreds of thousands of perfectly healthy people every year; people who have healthy immune systems, capable of defending itself. Plus, even if it doesn't effect you, you can still be a carrier. And if you pass that virus onto someone with a poor immune system, they're dead.

  105. My husband took the flu shot an even though he is normally healthy and in a good fitness, the flu jab gave him in a couple of days his worst flu ever lasting over 3 weeks so personal experience speaks to me thousand times more than special interest groups money making scams to keep people sick in order to sell them products that only take care of the symptoms and not the cause.

  106. Lindsay Ewanchuk

    Finally you get to your point of marketing in 10. Where you want the government which you talk so negatively about to provide you with billions to advertise your natural market. Your article has zero concrete names of physicians or actual evidence based practise studies. It is marketing crap like this that fills youn mothers heads with non sense. You need to re examine points 4 and 5 the most along with all others. It's just sad how the natural paths want to makeover without working and blaming others….pretty much te hippie way!

  107. Andrea Churko

    Thank you! I wish this article had references for all their "facts," as I have never found this information anywhere except on naturopath blogs, which have no more credibility than someone else's diary

  108. Maegan Olivia Toews

    I couldn't agree more Lindsay!! Of course we all worry about our children and what is going into their bodies However… If anybody knows what's right it's my doctor!!! He isn't trying to drain me of my money… He is trying to keep me and my family healthy and safe! We trust them to save out child's life
    When we need them to but we can't trust the years of medical facts that they study continually through out their career!!!! The first person I call when my daughter is sick is my doctor! Not a blog that someone dreamed up while they were doing an internet search!

  109. @ Maryann Olear – Absolutely my brother was damaged through the MMR vaccine. Through that horrible ordeal my family met countless other children who suffered the same through this vaccine. How the UK Government dealt with this was truly disgusting and made very obvious who they really serve…Big Pharma' only cares about profit not people's health.

  110. Neil Murrell – So why did Japan ban the MMR vaccine and replaced it with the single vaccines despite the higher cost? I know why, it's very easy to find this out…..

  111. Krychick Spp

    Stephen Oxley Children's toothpaste has no fluoride because they are more likely to swallow it, and fluoride can be toxic if ingested in large amounts. When a child switches to regular toothpaste (around age two) they are usually able to spit out the toothpaste and rinse with water on their own. There is evidence that topical fluoride is beneficial to healthy teeth; I am unconvinced that fluoridated water is good for the population as a whole. This is anecdotal, but I grew up in a home that was outside of the municipal water supply system, we got our water from a well- no fluoride. I'm in my 40s and have never had a cavity in my life. I attribute this to non-fluoridated water, which I continue to drink to this day. OTOH, my son, who has grown up in a city where he is exposed to the fluoridated municipal water system has many cavities even though he eats healthy and brushes after meals.

  112. Krychick Spp

    Dawne Killing-Kornhaas Here's a little hint for you- nothing in this world is completely safe and never will be.

  113. The CDC has been telling the public for nearly a decade that an estimated 36,000 people die from influenza in the U.S. every year. This number is grossly inaccurate as it includes not just influenza death cases, but also other respiratory, circulatory, cardiac and pulmonary deaths that potentially might have been associated with influenza
    A review of Vital Statistics data shows that since 1940, the highest number of influenza deaths recorded in a single year was 21,047 deaths in 1941. In fact, the mortality rate from influenza was not rising in the late 20th century – as the CDC has alleged. It was dropping.
    There were only between 600 and 750 influenza deaths recorded annually between 1995 and 1997. The most influenza deaths recorded in a single year since 1979 was about 2,900 deaths and that was in 2009, the H1N1 swine flu pandemic year! Yet CDC policymakers, along with drug company and medical trade association lobbyists have continuously been using inflated influenza hospitalization and mortality estimates to justify expanding the influenza vaccine market
    CDC does not require states to report individual seasonal flu cases or deaths of people older than 18 years of age. The CDC is not collecting the information they need to accurately assess influenza morbidity and mortality in the U.S.
    Taken from Dr. Mercola's website.

  114. US Drug Factories in ‘Terrible Shape’

    Here’s how the New York Times described conditions inside FDA-registered drug factories:

    “Weevils floating in vials of heparin. Morphine cartridges containing up to twice the labeled dose. Manufacturing plants with rusty tools, mold in production areas and—in one memorable case—a barrel of urine.” 2

    The New York Times emphasized that these were not reports about the injectable drug maker that was linked to 745 cases of infection and 58 American deaths.1 These quality lapses were found at large drug companies whose names are familiar to many Americans.2

    When these problems were discovered, the FDA sent out “warnings” to these companies. Instead of fixing the problems, many of these drug makers decided it was cheaper to simply discontinue making the drug(s). The result was severe shortages of the drugs cited by the FDA.2 This opened up the market for disreputable companies to make these same drugs, who did so under the same kind of abysmal conditions the FDA found at large drug factories.

    The FDA would like to take credit for stopping these problems, but in certain cases, it was people working at the drug factories that came forward to complain about unsanitary manufacturing conditions, or people dying from contaminated drugs, that prompted FDA action.

    The sad fact is that some drug companies are so greedy they will not stop their highly profitable assembly lines to perform even the most rudimentary sterilizing procedures.

  115. The 2009 influenza A(H1N1) "swine flu" vaccine, which was administered to millions of people around the world, is associated with a "small but significant risk" of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, an uncommon paralyzing nerve disorder, scientists from Quebec, Canada, reported in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association).

  116. Package inserts for flu vaccines show a multitude of side effects, including death, and yet they are marketed the same as over-the-counter drugs with no prescription needed. Why?

    Because in the United States vaccines enjoy complete immunity from lawsuits in the market place. If you are injured or die from a vaccine, you or your family cannot sue the manufacturer of the vaccine. This law enacted by Congress, was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011.

    One of these other adverse side effects (besides death) is Guillain-Barré syndrome, which has symptoms similar to polio. If you are brought into an emergency room with the paralyzing effects of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), the first question the doctors will ask you is if you just received the flu shot. Also, if you look at the majority of damages being paid out to those damaged from vaccines in the U.S. Vaccine Court, Guillain-Barré syndrome from the flu vaccine is #1, and almost equals all other awards for damages combined.

  117. Sydney Morning Herald recently reported that Australian "public health experts have called for an independent body to monitor drug safety after it emerged that young children were more likely to end up in hospitals because of side effects from a flu vaccine than they were from the disease itself. The analysis contradicts government safety advice that the harm did not outweigh the risk and raises concerns about the Therapeutic Goods Administration's assessment of the vaccine."

  118. In Finland, France and Sweden, narcolepsy was reported in teenage children in response to Pandemrix monovalent swine flu vaccine, leading the Finnish government to suspend its use.
    Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an autoimmune disease which has been associated with influenza vaccine since 1976, when the swine flu vaccine was first used. In fact, British government health experts acknowledged the link between the H1N1 vaccine and an increased risk of GBS earlier this month. Prior to this public admittance, the government had always denied such a link
    British pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline PLC will pay $750 million to settle allegations that it KNOWINGLY manufactured and sold adulterated drugs, including the popular antidepressant Paxil, federal prosecutors in Massachusetts said.(But yet you trust them to inject ingredients into your baby's veins?)
    2007 study published in the Annals of Medicine concluded that:

    "Abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation may persist for at least 2 weeks after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination.

    These could explain in part the earlier reported increase in cardiovascular risk during the first weeks after an acute inflammatory disorder."
    Flu vaccine has now been officially listed as a Category C drug. According to FDA:

    "Category C drugs are drugs that are more likely to cause problems for the mother or fetus. Also includes drugs for which safety studies have not been finished. The majority of these drugs do not have safety studies in progress.The package inserts published by the flu vaccine manufacturers state that "Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with influenza virus vaccine. It is also not known whether influenza virus vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman. Although animal reproductive studies have not been conducted, the prescribing health care provider should be aware of the recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. The ACIP states that if used during pregnancy, administration of influenza virus vaccine after 14 weeks of gestation may be preferable to avoid coincidental association of the vaccine with early pregnancy loss."

    Pregnant women should be aware that the flu vaccine contains Thimerosal, which is a mercury derivative. Mercury is toxic to the brain and has been found to be associated with brain damage and developmental delays in babies whose mothers were exposed to high levels of mercury during pregnancy. These drugs often come with a warning that they should be used only if the benefits of taking them outweigh the risks.
    in April of 2010, Michael Osterholm, director of the national Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), publicly admitted that flu shots don't work in the elderly.
    After the largest flu-vaccination campaign in Canadian history, a Canadian-led study (through the Cochrane Collaboration, a highly respected international network of researchers who analyze the scientific evidence, including the methodology, used in clinical trials) concluded that vaccinating nursing home workers had no effect on confirmed influenza cases among the homes' elderly residents.http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=flu-shots-may-not-protect-the-elderly-or-the-very-young
    Reported moderate reactions to influenza vaccine include fever, local reactions (pain, redness, swelling at the site of the injection), headache, fatigue, sore throat, nasal congestion, cough, joint and muscle pain, and nausea. Reported serious complications include brain inflammation, convulsions, Bell’s palsy, limb paralysis, neuropathy, shock, wheezing/asthma and other breathing problems. Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) is a disabling neurological disorder that involves temporary or permanent paralysis that can lead to death and has been causally related to influenza vaccinations.
    As of July 2012, there have been more than 84,000 reports of reactions, hospitalizations, injuries and deaths following influenza vaccinations made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), including over 1,000 related deaths and over 1,600 cases of GBS.

  119. Carel Peterson

    1) how about you cite the studies? Are they peer reviewed? Where are they published? What about providing primary prevention for other members of the family; such as elderly people and newborns?
    Which is why you need to be vaccinated every year, to protect against the strain that is projected to occur this year.
    What medical journals? How about a cite or two? How about some real “facts” instead of supposition?
    Correct about mercury toxicity, wrong about vaccines containing them. Some flu vaccines contain thimersol – MOST do not. 100% of single-dose flu vaccines for the 2012-2013 flu season as well as the nasal vaccine are thirmersol free. The ones that do, do not contain a toxic amount of mercury. Check your facts. you can look here: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
    What report? How about an occasional citation? How about even a single citation in your entire article? This is starting to read like a Joe McCarthy report “the evidence is right here in my briefcase”. How about breaking out some of your “evidence” and “proof” or “facts”. How about citing your work buddy.
    Way to spin a conspiracy theory. Tell people not to trust their government scientists. Wow, who should they believe? People who scrupulously adhere to the scientific method, or someone like you who makes all kinds of claims with no citation to facts?
    Again, cite your claims. Can you tell i'm getting tired of this non-evidence based drivel?

    Your claim that "Flu shots are indeed more dangerous than you could think, and it is best to rely on natural ways to protect against the flu rather than getting yourself vaccinated." is just an irresponsible claim and one that could actually cause great harm to vulnerable populations. Take off the tin foil hat and do some actually scientific research of peer reviewed, published work.
    You said "Isn’t it interesting that the main stream public health officials never promote the various proven ways to avoid the flu other than through vaccination? How about spending some of the billions of advertising dollars teaching us natural ways to boost our immune systems and avoid the flu without harmful and sometimes deadly vaccinations." I would suggest you talk the members of that that little cult in Texas about how ineffective vaccines are. I bet they wish they’d heeded the warning of the government scientists instead of listening to bogus pseudo-scientific claims such as yours.

    If you are really interested in checking the evidence, see the following sources for some real studies about thimersol in vaccines:

    Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal From Vaccines and Immunoglobulins and Risk of Autism
    http://pediatrics. Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) Case-control Pediatrics (Oct 2010; 126(4):656-664)

    Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association
    http://ac.els-cdn.com/S0749379703001132/1-s2.0-S0749379703001132-main.pdf?_tid=2482fc22-930e-11e2-9fda-00000aacb35e&acdnat=1363970152_ca01098ddd85860c2ab9510aed2fde00 Ecological Cohort
    American Journal of Preventive Medicine, (Aug 2003: 25(2):101-6)

    Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Databases
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/112/5/1039.full.pdf+html Screening Cohort
    Pediatrics, (Nov2003;112(5): 1039-48)

    Neuropsychological Performance 10 Years After Immunization in Infancy With Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475.full.html Italy Clinical Trial
    Pediatrics, (Feb 2009; 123(2):475-482)

  120. Anna Jurak

    That's not a scientific source at all. People – don't believe everything on the Internet. Be careful with your life. Want to trust these or trust scientifically backed research from renowned scientists and doctors who spend their lives researching these?

  121. Dee Sims

    I've never had a flu shot. The last time I got the flu was in 1994, almost 20 years ago. And if I caught the flu again? Big deal. You morons have been brainwashed into thinking that getting the flu is worse than cancer, AIDS, ALS, Parkinson's, etc. It's the FLU, people. Something you will usually get over in 24 hours. What sheeple!

  122. Neil Murrell

    Ann Dennis – Actually, my source is the CDC. The Wikipedia page I linked to takes its information from them. I linked to the Wiki page because I thought it would be easier. As I said to Sue, if the CDC are not good enough, who would be?

  123. Neil Murrell

    Dan O'Flynn – You wrote:

    "Neil Murrell – So why did Japan ban the MMR vaccine and replaced it with the single vaccines despite the higher cost? I know why, it's very easy to find this out….."

    I'm sorry, Dan. Although I hate, hate, hate people who say 'LOL', I must admit this comment very nearly made me say it.

    Let me start by just saying that I agree completely that it's very easy to find out why Japan banned the MMR vaccine. It's because the Japanese government, following the precautionary principle, decided to listen to anti-vaxxers and just assume that the MMR vaccine caused autism until proven otherwise. I've nothing against the precautionary principle. It's laudable, when it's informed. However, in this case, it wasn't.

    You see, about 12 years after the Japanese banned the MMR vaccine some scientists had the bright idea of asking themselves "Hey, I wonder if this has made any difference to autism rates?" Now, if, as anti-vaxxers continually attest, there really is a link between MMR and autism, you would expect autism rates among Japanese children to have gone down in the years since the MMR vaccine was banned. Instead, what they found was that autism rates just kept going UP! Up, and up, and up. Here's a link to the study:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/330/7491/558.2 (requires registration, but it's free)

    I hate to be a prick, Dan. I really do. But I can't resist saying that, honestly, that information was "very easy to find out."

  124. Neil Murrell

    Yeah! Right on! And while we're at it, don't believe that BS about smoking and lung cancer either. I've smoked for 40 years and I'm strong as an ox!

    Look, I wouldn't normally make a point of commenting on something so anecdotal but so many people seem to be saying it that it's really starting to wind me up. Everybody is different. There are some people who will NEVER get the flu, no matter what. Just as there are some people who will always beat cancer against the odds, or some people who won't get heart disease no matter how much crap they eat. Some people are, in a word, lucky. But to use those people to make medical recommendations for everyone else is just lunacy. Most people do get the flu. Most people find it really, really horrible. For most people, vaccinating is the sensible choice.

    And by the way, if you think the flu is something you can just "get over" in 24 hours, you've clearly NEVER had the flu. What you've had instead, is a cold. Maybe even a bad cold. But not the flu. Although they do have the same superficial symptoms, the flu is infinitely worse.

    If ever you're not sure whether you've got a cold or the flu, there's a very simple test which can help you make your mind up. Next time you're ill, ask yourself "If someone offered me a thousand dollars to get out of bed for five minutes, no questions asked, would I take it?" If the answer is 'Yes', you probably don't have the flu.

  125. Leslie Wright

    I am sorry to say, but the only thing I can conclude from your responses is that you are an agent for the vaccine industry. You talk in circles, prove the article correct in some instances, you don't do your homework to realize the information given is on point and you also seem very naive. No one can be that blind and speaking so definitively in the opposing of this article with no scientific basis is incredibly suspicious. I have medical background, I do have people in my family of the medical industry, I have seen first hand the damages it causes and I have also spoken to medical professionals outside of my family that has confirmed your denials. Please do your homework before denying a whole article and not just to prove YOUR point but look on both sides of the coin. But like I said before you are planted here to cause doubt and suspicion in this article.

  126. Neil Murrell

    Leslie Wright – Not sure if you're speaking to me, James Connolly, or anyone/everyone else arguing against the article, but it's worth saying that the "shill" accusation can be flung in both directions. After all, how do we know that you're not an "agent" for, say, a homeopathic vaccine company?

    And as for homework, I've cited 14 spearate articles in this thread, and I think James's expertise speaks for itself. If you think our research is lacking, why don't you cite an example?

    Tell you what, since you're so big on objectivity, why don't you have a quick look at this study below:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/330/7491/558.2 (requires registration, but it's free)

    Basically, Japan banned the MMR vaccine in 1993. 12 years later, scientists studied 30,000 children and they found that, far from decline, autism rates just kept going up and up. No anti-vaccinationist I've ever debated has ever been able to account for this. I'd be genuinely interested to hear what you think.

  127. Heather King

    Tim Lee the pharma companies loose money when people stay healthy…they make more when you are in hospital sick with the flu! Go ahead don't take the vaccine…we have an overpopulation problem anyway.

  128. If people who did not want to take the flu shot take it because they read your articles or comments and then get sick or even die ….. How would you feel ? Does rebutting this article make you feel good about yourself ? If you have no evidence then STFU !! Learn how to build up your immune system people, the market lies to make a profit. Take responsibility for your actions, and just an FYI, more people die slipping in the shower then your 3k to 50k estimate which is laughable can you make that gap bigger ?

  129. Mildred Russoniello — thank you for sharing I am sorry to hear that happened to you. It is sad we have people injecting themselves for something that may or may never happen because fda suggests it.

  130. (NaturalNews) Prepare to be shocked. Here are 10 outrageous (but true) facts about vaccines the CDC and the vaccine industry don't want you to know:

    FACT #1) Yes, mercury is still used in vaccines, and the CDC openly admits it. There is NO safe level of mercury for injecting into a human child. Not even "trace" levels. There is NO evidence of safety for mercury at any dose whatsoever. Any doctor who says the level of mercury in a vaccine is "safe" to inject into a child is only demonstrating their outrageous ignorance of scientific facts.

    Mercury is arguably the most neurotoxic element on the entire Table of Elements. It is used in vaccines for the convenience of the vaccine manufacturer at the expense of the safety of the child. Any doctor who injects mercury into a child — at any dose! — should be immediately stripped of their medical license.

    See the list of studies on the neurotoxicity of mercury at SCIENCE.naturalnews.com, now the largest relational research resource for chemicals, health, nutrients and drugs:

    http://science.naturalnews.com/M/Mercury_and

    Those study titles include:

    Lactational exposure to inorganic mercury: evidence of Neurotoxic effects.

    Neurotoxic action of inorganic Mercury injected in the intraventricular space of mouse cerebrum.

    Neurotoxic effects in workers of the clinical thermometer manufacture plant.

    Neurotoxic risk caused by stable and variable exposure to methylmercury from seafood.

    Additional FACT: There is no "safe" form of mercury as is often ridiculously claimed by vaccine pushers. Both ethyl and methyl mercury are extremely toxic to the human nervous system. Neither should ever, under ANY circumstances, be deliberately injected into a human child at any dose whatsoever.

    FACT #2) Injecting any substance into the human body makes it orders of magnitude more potentially toxic because it bypasses the protections of the digestive tract or the respiratory system. Injecting mercury into a human being — at any dose — should be globally condemned as a criminal act. That it is currently considered an acceptable act in the field of medicine only condemns the true destructive nature of modern medicine. Under the vaccine doctrine, "First do no harm" has become "Poison children for profit."

    FACT #3) For decades, polio vaccines injected into tens of millions of people actually contained hidden cancer viruses (SV40 and others). This was openly admitted by a top Merck vaccine scientist named Hilleman. The CDC recently scrubbed its website of this information in a "revisionist history" purge. Up to 98 million Americans were exposed to hidden cancer viruses in polio vaccines. This is an historical fact. Read more at http://www.sv40foundation.org

    FACT #4) Top virologists working for Merck have blown the whistle and gone public with shocking revelations that claim the company routinely fabricated lab results to claim a 95% efficacy rate of its mumps vaccine in order to continue receiving government contracts on a vaccine that didn't work.

    See the False Claims document these scientists filed with the U.S. government here:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/documents

    FACT #5) In nearly every outbreak you hear about these days, the majority of the children affected by the outbreak have already been vaccinated against the virus! For example, outbreaks of whooping cough routinely involve children who have already been vaccinated against whooping cough. This is yet more proof that vaccines do not confer immunity.

    FACT #6) The claimed history of vaccine "successes" against polio and other diseases is a pure fabrication. This is discussed and exposed in great detail in the powerful new book, "Dissolving Illusions" by Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Click here to see the book at Amazon.com, or click here to visit the website (and view the charts).

    FACT #7) The vaccine industry refuses to conduct scientific tests on the health outcomes of vaccinated children vs. unvaccinated children. Why? Because these test would no doubt show unvaccinated children to be healthier, smarter and far better off than vaccinated children in terms of behavioral disorders, allergies and even autoimmune disorders. Check the people you know: Don't you routinely find that the most heavily-vaccinated kids are the ones who get sick all the time? Meanwhile, groups like the Amish who largely refuse to vaccinate their children have near-zero rates of autism.

    FACT #8) The U.S. Supreme Court has already declared that the secret "vaccine court" is a higher power than the Supreme Court. The so-called "vaccine court" is granted extraordinary powers to operate utterly outside the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and completely outside the rules of due process and law.

    The court itself — which isn't even a court of law — is a violation of law and a violation of basic human rights. It must be abolished like Apartheid.

    FACT #9) The mainstream media receives a significant portion of its revenues from the very same drug companies selling vaccines. This financial influence results in the media refusing to cover stories about vaccine-damaged children for fear of losing advertising revenues.

    This is why the mainstream media frequently features guests and authors who ridiculously claim that all the vaccine damaged children across America do not exist or are "mere delusions" of their parents. These despicable vaccine apologists are intellectual bullies who, like Hitler's minions, relish in aiding and abetting a real-life holocaust that's harming millions of children around the globe.

    FACT #10) The CDC openly admits that vaccines contain additives which are known to be potent neutoxic chemicals. Those additives include:

    • Mercury (still used as a preservative)
    • Aluminum (used as an inflammatory adjuvant)
    • Formaldehyde (used to "deactivate" live viruses)
    • MSG / Monosodium Glutamate (used to caused immune system inflammation)

    All of these substances are toxic to human biology when injected. All of them are still listed on the CDC website as vaccine additives. There is no rational doctor or scientist in the world who can say they believe injecting infants and children with mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum is somehow "safe," yet doctors inject children with these substances every single day in the form of vaccines.

    Doctors who inject children with vaccines are delusional. They are practicing a medical holocaust against humanity while fraudulently calling it "immunization." For the record, vaccination does not equal immunization. Click here to see the book of the same title.

    Here are your sources Neil murrell, now admit you are a government troll and stop promoting big pharmas agenda. You most likely work in the industry someway or how just like everyone else below or above who are promoting vaccinations.

    Sources for this story include
    http://www.dissolvingillusions.com/
    http://www.sv40foundation.org/
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additive
    http://www.naturalnews.com/036328_Merck_mump
    http://www.naturalnews.com/041897_MMR_vaccin
    http://naturalnews.com/vaccines.html
    http://science.naturalnews.com

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/042012_vaccine_facts_vaccine-damaged_children_cdc.html#ixzz2jEXokjNT

  131. Sources are for lazy people such as yourself who do not know how to use google, do your own DD, one day when they figure out that these vaccines cause harm it will not be the makers that pay the penalty it will be the people who took them. QUESTION EVERYTHING, DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE CORPORATIONS CARE ABOUT YOU ? This is one place you get start your research if you trust only government statistic but doctored statistic have shown up here in the past. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24159558

  132. How about staying healthy and just not getting sick in the first place. and they are not free, they make more money when big companies like cvs/wallgreens buy them in bulk. BIG PAY DAY, get your facts straight. Good for you Ricardo — I WILL NOT COMPLY, for god sakes use people like Lauren for your experiments she obviously does not care that your flu shot is injecting Alluminum, Mercury, Formaldehyde, MSG, mercury-containing preservatives, Antibiotics into her veins. She is totally cool with it. oh wait your lazy azz wants sources, http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm. This is tuff love, please wake up

  133. Neil Murrell NO THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!! Thats like asking if we trust the FDA, ADA, etc… NO ITS NOT, they will doctor and write anything to please pharma lobbyists. Take the vaccine please and do us all a favor. actually take it every year for the rest of your life I really am interested to see the results.

  134. I started working in respiratory care in 2006 that was the first year I took the flu vaccine. I have taken the vaccine every year until last year I stopped last year because I sufferd from 06-12 with chronic upper respiratory problems every 2-6 months. After stoping the vaccine last year I've only had one respiratory illness and it was the flu last Dec. I've also refused the flu vaccine again this year and hope the respiratory problems stay away another year.

  135. Rashmi Rin

    LOL! Biggest bunch of malarkey I have EVER read! xD

    I was going to type a lengthy response pointing out flaws in this piece of sensational-scare-tactic "journalism" … but it seems someone else has already done that — so I'll just quote them:

    Credit: James Connolly
    " I have several comments to make on the article you reposted (which has no scientific references to follow up).

    1) the total lack of evidence is pure and simple BS considering that among the unvaccinated population in the USA, I've read there are between 3,000 and 50,000 deaths annually (depending on the year, and the mutations present) from strains present in the vaccine (it's true, the vaccine is a top 6 to top 10 concoction of this year's predicted "hit" influenza strains – so the vaccine won't help against variants not in the best-guess list). And one can freely ignore my comments because I don't have the studies at hand to support the claim. It's from memory.

    2) medical journals have reported on significant side-effects in susceptible populations, and mostly in the distant past, because we've learned. For example, no one can get the flu vaccine if they are allergic to eggs or chicken. Why is that? Because we don't let those people take the vaccine! And that's because research and articles in the medical literature point out that people allergic to eggs will have a reaction to the vaccine (which is grown using chicken embryos). Today it is very difficult to have a serious adverse reaction to the flu vaccine if one answers honestly the questions on the pre-vaccination screening questionnaire. That said, I spoke with a director in our city's largest vaccination clinic about the incidence of anaphylaxis in their clinic. I was shocked to learn that they have one or two per year if they're unlucky (the chances are less than 1 in 100,000). This is anecdotal, so it's accuracy cannot be confirmed.

    3) The reason people get flu symptoms when they get the vaccine is that the body is responding to what it believes is an influenza infection (which includes runny nose, aches, congestion, and even mild fever). On the contrary, the presence of these symptoms doesn't indicate immunosuppression, it clearly indicates the immune system is busy defending against the perceived attack and eventually building antibodies to recognize and destroy any further occurrence of the proteins it found at the injection site.

    4) Even if someone were immunosuppressed by the vaccine (which they aren't), the influenza vaccine does not contain any live virus or even the viral RNA. Instead, the vaccine is a combination of the proteins which the virus would produce if it had infected you. It is these foreign proteins which spark the immune system response (symptoms in #3) and the ultimate production of antibodies against future infection. If one does come into contact with a different disease, it is theoretically possible that because the body is busy defending against the influenza proteins that it can't fight off another infection. And it's also theoretically possible that when one eats a banana, the digestive system is too busy to metabolize an apple – except the immune system is body-wide and the digestive tract is huge, and both have enormously differentiated cells to do specific work and handle the load.

    5) Some flu vaccines (specifically the multi-use containers for use in clinics) are preserved with Thimerosal, which contains ethyl-mercury, a compound which is generally considered to be safe (it's impossible to prove anything is harmless – even oxygen in too great a quantity will kill). The mercury everyone worries about is free mercury (the shiny liquid) or the kind sequestered in fish as methyl-mercury, which is highly toxic. Just because half of the chemical name is present, doesn't make the molecule a poison. For instance, many adults thoroughly enjoy Ethyl Alcohol in beverages; however, no one enjoys Methyl Alcholoh because it causes headaches, blindness, and death. Both are alcohol compounds, but the methyl vs. ethyl is a BIG DEAL in living creatures. A very big deal.

    6) I am unfamiliar with a link between influenza vaccination and onset of alzheimers. Could be true. Given no references to check, I think it may be an exaggeration, but better to check. And it's important to check because the elderly (and very young children) are the most at risk of serious illness and death due to influenza. Teenagers through mid-life adults ordinarily fight off the infection of the respiratory tract and lungs. By the way, influenza has nothing to do with stomach issues – what people call the stomach flu is commonly a norovirus infection.

    7) Hard to say if this is true, but the scientists and medical researchers who PUBLISH studies on this don't all have a financial incentive to lie and put their own families at risk. This comment resembles a conspiracy theory. If it's true, then the US government should clean house at the CDC. In Canada (and in other countries around the world) vaccinations are not governed, studied, nor administered by the CDC. Nor are these agencies or their members positioned to make a profit from the vaccination industry (other than having a job, of which vaccination work is only a part). Considering how it's next to impossible to get governments to agree on disarming chemical weapons in Syria, I would personally be surprised if there were a global financial conspiracy to immunize for profit. First I doubt that every country would sign on, and second, there are much better ways to bilk a population out of it's hard-earned money. Vaccines are a long and arduous route to fortune.

    8) While there is some truth to the fact that Tamiflu and Relenza can kill off most of an infected person's influenza (leaving only the strongest mutated variants to survive), this is akin to overuse (and incomplete use) of antibiotics which pretty much everyone agrees is a Bad Thing. Influenza vaccination neither causes an already infected person's influenza virus to mutate more (or less) than it would otherwise. And if the influenza vaccine is taken long enough before exposure, it allows the body to detect and destroy the influenza infection before it mutates.

    9) Yes, 38 years ago, there were issues with purity and handling of vaccines. And these were not minor issues. If the author of this article believes that we're still using vaccines developed 38 years ago, he/she is wrong, very wrong indeed. Likewise, there was a time when operating rooms weren't sterilized and surgeons didn't wash their hands before surgery. Is that a good reason to skip a necessary surgery now? Only if you believe people don't learn from their mistakes and put in place practices to prevent similar occurrences from taking place. Life is messy. We don't know everything. But seriously, the medical community has an excellent track record of learning from its mistakes and incorporating new findings into its Standard Operating Procedures. Why is this? Because the medical community is overseen by the people who receive treatment from the medical community (as do the families of those involved). It's in everyone's best interest to incorporate the latest findings and safety protocols.

    10) The concoction of 6-to-10 best guesses of influenza strains contains the most virulent and life-threatening strains known at the time. It is a guessing game since the influenza virus mutates and disease propagation isn't a linear (or even simple geometric) process. You can take your chances. I prefer to give my body a head-start opportunity on defending on what might well be a deadly threat next year."

  136. Neil Murrell

    Lootz Timoneri – I plan on doing exactly that. I have asthma, and thus have a greater chance of developing potentially dangerous flu complications. Rest assured, I'll be having my flu shot every winter, regular as clockwork, and I won't lose a wink of sleep over it.

    May I ask what evidence you have that suggests the CDC is corrupt, and in the pay of "pharma lobbyists"?

    To turn the question around, why do you trust Naturopathy.Inc? Are you unaware that it's a business, just as much as "Big Pharma"? Did you not know that it's worth almost $40 billion dollars a year in America alone? Do you think no-one PROFITS from alternative medicine? When you spend money on fluoride filters or useless homeopathic paste, do you think that money just disappears into the stratosphere? No. I hate to disillusion you, but it goes into somebody's pocket, just like when you buy regular drugs. Did you not see the "Online Store" button at the top of this very page? Do you really think there's no financial incentive for the people who write these articles to unfairly libel doctors and conventional medicine? Did you not know that Naturopathy.Inc has lobbyists all of their own? Because they do (cite: http://tinyurl.com/obdpqje). If we assume, as you seem to do, that money is the root of all evil and that everyone and everything even tangentially connected to "Big Pharma" is rotten to the core, corrputed by the promise of profit, surely you must conclude that that very same promise can have a similarly corrupting influence on alternative health practitioners, at least in theory. So why do you trust one and not the other?

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