23 Seniors Died After Receiving This Year’s Flu Shot Sold by Pharmacies

Flu-Shot-Elderly Vaccines

Package insert for Fluzone flu vaccine marketed to seniors reveals 23 seniors died during drug trial.

The annual marketing campaign pushing people to receive flu vaccinations is in full force. CVS Pharmacies is offering a 20% off shopping pass if you purchase a flu vaccine.

As you can see in the screen shot below, taken from the CVS website, senior citizens over the age of 65 are being targeted to get the “high-dose” flu vaccine.

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The FAQ at the CVS website defines the “high-dose” flu vaccine: “Containing four times the amount of antigen (the part of the vaccine that causes the body to produce antibody) in regular flu shots, high-dose flu shots, along with the additional antigen produced, are intended to create a stronger immune response.”

The name of this flu vaccine that is marketed for seniors is called “Fluzone.” You can find it being marketed to seniors at all the major pharmacies in the United States.

Package inserts for flu vaccines show a multitude of side effects, including death, and yet they are marketed the same as over-the-counter drugs with no prescription needed. Why?

Because in the United States vaccines enjoy complete immunity from lawsuits in the market place. If you are injured or die from a vaccine, you or your family cannot sue the manufacturer of the vaccine. This law enacted by Congress, was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011.

Therefore, they are marketed with the same marketing techniques as any other high-profit product. With the baby boomer generation moving into their senior years, today’s seniors are seen as an especially lucrative market.

So financial incentives like discounts on other products, as CVS is doing, is quite common in order to boost vaccine sales.

Walgreens has a different program that especially boosts sales of vaccines:

While vaccine rates in the U.S. among children are close to 90%, rates in other parts of the world (where pharmaceutical companies do not have immunity from the law for adverse effects) are much lower. So, in partnership with Walgreens, a non-profit organization (Shot@Life) buys up the vaccines and sends them to these countries for free (who doesn’t want something for free, especially when you live in a poor country??)

This is a brilliant marketing plan for the pharmaceutical companies, as the U.S. government gives the organization buying the vaccines non-profit status, allowing them to receive tax deductible donations to pay for the vaccines. Walgreens is probably a contributor to the program as a tax write off.

With legal immunity to market dangerous products, don’t expect those doing the marketing and making the profits to warn you of the side effects. You need to find this information yourself, usually from the Internet.

For those pro-vaccine forces that warn people how dangerous it is to get information from the Internet, the information we are about to share is directly from the FDA website (at least at the time of this writing – they have been known to remove items from their website if it gets too much publicity and makes them look bad), and you can look it up yourself.

The high-dose Fluzone vaccine being marketed this flu season to seniors, which has four times the amount of antigens that the regular flu shot has, as well as the non-high dose version, had 23 seniors die during drug trials.

The package insert for the high-dose Fluzone flu vaccine is found here (for now).

In the section documenting adverse effects, this is what is written:

Within 6 months post-vaccination, 156 (6.1%) Fluzone High-Dose recipients and 93 (7.4%) Fluzone recipients experienced a serious adverse event. No deaths were reported within 28 days post-vaccination. A total of 23 deaths were reported during the period Day 29–180 post-vaccination: (0.6%) among Fluzone High-Dose recipients and 7 (0.6%) among Fluzone 1 recipients. The majority of these participants had a medical history of cardiac, hepatic, neoplastic, renal, and/or respiratory diseases. No deaths were considered to be caused by vaccination.

This statement stating that 23 seniors died, which really should be headline news but is buried in a package insert on the FDA website, begs several questions:

1. By what basis can they conclude that “No deaths were considered to be caused by vaccination”??

2. If, as it is implied, these 23 deaths were all caused by pre-existing conditions, why were there no deaths in the first 28 days? Shouldn’t the deaths, if not attributable to the vaccine but pre-existing conditions, be equally spread out through all time periods?

3. How does the medical history for these 23 seniors compare to the medical history of those who did not die? Were there any significant differences? The range of symptoms given in the package insert can very well cover almost all seniors during the flu season.

Besides death, which is just one “serious adverse event,” there were 226 other “serious” adverse events, for a total of 249 serious adverse events, out of only 3,833 participants.

If this does not constitute a dangerous drug that should probably not even be on the market, then I don’t know what does. And yet, it is sold to unsuspecting seniors and others like candy at these drug stores.

One of these other adverse side effects (besides death) is Guillain-Barré syndrome, which has symptoms similar to polio. If you are brought into an emergency room with the paralyzing effects of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), the first question the doctors will ask you is if you just received the flu shot. Read one story here of how one man went from being able to bench-press 275 pounds to struggling how to walk after receiving last year’s flu shot: Miami Man Contracts Guillain-Barré Syndrome, Nearly Dies After Getting Flu Shot.

The CDC would like you to believe that the risk of GBS from the flu shot is only one out of one million. But if that is the case, why is there a warning on package inserts of flu vaccines, and why is it the first question EMTs ask when dealing with GBS emergencies?

The package insert for Fluzone states: “If Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has occurred within 6 weeks of previous influenza vaccination, the decision to give Fluzone High-Dose should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and risks.”

I wonder how many vaccine sales people at these pharmacies give “careful consideration” to this adverse side effect, or any others, before injecting you?


104 Comments on 23 Seniors Died After Receiving This Year’s Flu Shot Sold by Pharmacies

  1. Cora Lynne Brooks

    I'm 55 years old and I don't get flu shots at all. I'm not at all healthy but I don't get sick with the flu eighter. I just try my best to not go out in public that much. I do believe that's why I don't get the flu and I thank God for that.

  2. Kay Crichton

    I almost died in 2009 from the swine flu. After spending a month in ICU I consider myself a poster child for the flu shot. I will get flu shots for the rest of my life!

  3. Luna Laguna

    Every year the drug stores get more and more aggressive on selling these flu shots. Last month I had an employee at a local ds practically twist my arm trying to get me to say yes to one (keep in mind it was not flu season by a long shot). I told him the whole hard sell thing was scary and that I will never, ever get one.

  4. Linda Parrish

    I have gotten the flu shot every year since I can't remember when and I have never had a problem with it. Than in 2009 when they had the swine flu scare and added the N1H1 to the flu vaccine cocktail, I became deathly ill almost immediately. I barely had time to drive home before I got fever, chills, I became almost paralyzed and could hardly move my limbs. To walk I had to hold on to the walls, furniture, etc. and shuffle my feet along the floor. This lasted about 36 hours. I almost called 911. I was in pretty bad shape.
    Every year since than I still get very sick. I go get the shot and go directly home. Last year, I got sick, but not as bad as previous few years.
    It doesn't seem to matter where I get the vaccine for the flu. I usually get it from my doctor but the last two years I got it at the Rite Aid Pharmacy in town.
    I am not a healthy person either, I have lung disease and need to get the shot so I do not get sick. The pneumonia shot doesn't affect me at all not even a sore arm. I also recently got the Shingles vaccine because I am over 60 and I was worried to death about its side effects, but it didn't phase me either. Only these new Flu vaccines make me terribly sick. ~~sigh~~

  5. Kira Marie Talbott

    NO, its not – its sensationalistic gobsmack from people who don't know anything about immunology, virology, epidemiology or how the damn VAERS works. Get your flu shot and stay healthy.

  6. Shawn Atchison

    I hope you live long enough not to regret that decision. I will never get another flu shot again. If I can help it, none of my kids will get any kind of vaccine at all.

  7. Shawn Atchison

    Kira Marie Talbott I will never get vaccinated for anything and I won't allow my kids to be either, when I have them.

  8. I wonder what the death rate among old people is in general. If you pick out any random 3,833 old people, what are the chances that 23 of them will just naturally die within 6 months? I don't know the ages they used when they tested the elderly, but that 23 number doesn't sound very high to me, and might even be lower than the the normal death rate for the elderly, or the death rate for the elderly that did not get a flu shot.

  9. Angela West

    everyone should just keep their opinions to themselves lest they end up on the NSA's watchlist and who knows what's in store for all the 'conspiracy theorists', activists and general naysayers to the governments agenda– but you know it isn't gonna be good.. and if people are still asleep, let them sleep, forget arguing with them anymore.. all it's gonna do is eventually get you and your family killed by expressing your 'domestic terrorist' opinion.. if we are ever to rise up, posting the truth on random news articles isn't the way.. we must really act or just pretend to be one of the sheep and try to get by..

  10. Trudy Hart Petersen well you just might get breast cancer not getting a mamagram and stupid people such as you are the one's that die with it, just as you said b/c you don't ever get a mamagram/ good luck with that!! lol!!~!!

  11. My son work's in an er and every year hundred's of people that didn't get a flu shot come running in throwing up all over the place saying , oh I didn't bother to get a flu shot lol, and the dr.'s say may I suggest next year that you do get one so you don't get so deathly ill, and end up in the hospital!!!!! By then they are so sick they are like oh I sure will, when they have like 103-105 temperature!!!!! People are nut's GET YOUR FLU SHOT"S!!!!!!!!!

  12. Kay Crichton

    I just got another shot today, so you know I believe in them. Oh, and Lindsey, I don't have an immune system, thanks to the swine flu. I have to get other people's immune systems every month.

  13. Molly Ridderhoff

    The reason the "high dose" vaccine is given is because patients over 65 do not build up immunity with the lower dose. This "high dose" vaccine has been available for 2-3 yrs and people have also died from the regular dose in trials. Articles such as this cause people to fear immunizations without giving them substantial information. The research is proving the high dose vaccine has improved immunity in the elderly.

  14. Ryan Rasmussen

    I don't mean to be argumentative but the package insert and the research trial that supported this information on the package insert both say that the deaths were unrelated to the vaccine. In fact, there were 3,851 participants in that trial that had an average age of 73. The fact that they were healthy enough to enroll themselves in the trial initially (not being hospitalized at the time of trial initiation) is evidence to the fact that there were no deaths in the first month. The second time period looked at was 6 months (6 times longer than the initial 1 month check up), so it makes sense that this time frame would have the deaths in it. The high dose vaccine is used in the elderly because their immune system is weaker, and unable to build a defense against the virus pathogen as easily as a young person's could. Looking at the immunogenicity studies of the trial, the higher dose fluzone was able to achieve higher antibody titers in the elderly which is postulated to increase immune response. Pharmacies can dispense this vaccine because we are in fact the experts in the field. We have to be certified to give these vaccines, trained to provide CPR or epinephrine in the event of an allergic response (anaphylaxis) to the product, and have yearly continued education to remain experts in the field of immunizations. I do not know the exact health conditions of the participants of the study who died, but its not unreasonable to think that of over 3,800 people with an average age of 73 (some older and some younger) that 23 (an equal amount from both the low and high dose influenza test groups) would die from other causes in the course of six months. If other inquiries about the subjects who died in the trial are needed, you can contact the supporters of the trial and ask for more information. I am not saying that there are no risks associated with using vaccines, I am saying that these risks outweigh the benefits. The CDC estimates that: "between about 2,500 and 6,000 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range was about 3,900 2009 H1N1-related deaths." Every person has the right to accept or reject getting vaccinated based on their beliefs, just be sure that you are not basing your decision on false information. If vaccines don't work, then what happened to smallpox? Also look at the into the 1918 flu pandemic (before there were vaccines) as to how deadly the flu vaccine can be. Sorry Jess don't mean to rant, just wanted to clarify a few things with this article that seemed to be based on opinion and not fact.

  15. Mary Ashley

    I have to admit that a lot of this is true.Small Pox,Polio,etcetc-they are gone -Is it safer to get a vaccine from a doctor?I have end stage emphysema and have always gotten a flu shot-I am scared to death to be around a stuffy nose! I like the odds from the shot more.I love to be holistic,but I mix eastern and western medicine ideas and try to come up somewhere in between-

  16. Betty Cozatt

    I had to go for a blood test anyway so I also made a nurse appointment to get the flu shot. No problems with it.

  17. Mary Ashley

    this says the problems occurred quite a while later-but I think the odds are soo small-shot better than flu 4 me-

  18. Mike Nelson

    Dr? If you don't get the flu within 2 weeks of the shot (to allow for an overlong incubation period), it demonstrates a Failure of the flu shot (they are just an educated guess which strains are going to hit each year). No thanks, had the flu 2x, both while in the military where I had to get the shot.

  19. James Trudel

    Shawn Atchison your kids will possibly cause the deaths of other children. You anti vax morons should be charged like a drunk driver. If it was just your children that might die, I wouldn't care. If my children get infected because you're a fucking moron, that I'm not OK with.

  20. Elaine Shiner

    If you divide the 3833 in the test by the 249 adverse reactions you get 1 to 15 ratio… higher odds than I like…. My grandparents and parents all lived to a couple weeks short of 90 to mid 90s and they didn't have flu shots… Think it is a big money maker for Big Pharm and they are protected from lawsuit if it causes harm so why should they be extra cautious with their products… Just like Dentists who still put amalgams containing mercury when we know how harmful mercury is to the body… and there are alternatives…

  21. Jonty Kershaw

    You should just turn off the comments section of this site. Nothing useful is written here. Just vitriol from both sides of the debate.

  22. Sarah Mastej

    No flu shots here, no flu. I did however get the flu from a man who was sick after getting his flu shot. He was sick for a few weeks and I ended up at the e.r. with some type of serious headache that even painkillers couldnt stop.

  23. Joseph Putnam

    What idiots the death rate for the people in their age group would show 19 should have died in the time period anyway. and there were no deaths in the group during the first 4 weeks.

  24. The writer's math skills are evidently non-existent, and s/he has little common sense as well. "Seniors" have a pretty high death rate because of their age and the number of pre-existing conditions that they have. The SAME PERCENTAGE of people who received the high-dose vaccine died as those who received the lower dose. The absolute number was different because most of the people got the high-dose vaccine. Fewer deaths occurred in the first month compared to the next five months because (a) one month is a smaller time period than 5 months, and (b) people who are healthy enough to get a flu shot are at lower risk of immediate death. There is a difference between asking reasonable questions and fear-mongering, and unfortunately, this article falls into the fear-mongering category.

  25. Kathi Gabkatfitnessrocks Gaber I

    Ryan do some research on the smallpox phenomenom. According to alot of information available, the epidemic was long gone when the vaccine was introduced, and there is alot of information out there that points to this interesting info… alot of people believe that the vaccine had nothing to do with the elimination of smallpox and that that vaccine, again, was just a money maker for big pharma. Money rules…

  26. Kathi Gabkatfitnessrocks Gaber I

    Actually that's not true Molly. Research, which research?? The CDC themselves declared last year's flu shot a "dismal failure" and I am quoting them. In people over age 65 it was only 9% effective. NINE PERCENT! that means, 91 % INEFFECTIVE!!! If that is improvement, while also administering alzheimer's causing aluminum with the vaccination, then why are we even bothering?? Let people catch the flu! We would be better off treating cases of flu than causing all of the harm that they do with the shots. NINE percent??? That is not a very effective vaccine. Certainly not odds I would take!

  27. Kathi Gabkatfitnessrocks Gaber I

    People who are healthy enough to get a flu shot probably won't die if they get the flu either. So why add the extra chemicals to your system?? We have a perfectly swell immune system, if we are healthy, so let it take care of any flu strains that we are exposed to.

  28. Kathi Gabkatfitnessrocks Gaber I

    On the other hand, our immune system and kidney/liver/thyroid CANNOT handle the added ingredients that are part of the flu shot… so why are we putting those toxins into our system?? Doing so is crazy and people who do are buying the corporate propaganda.

  29. Patric O'Fish

    If the scum in congress and SCOTUS would let pharmaceutical companies be challenged in court, it could usher in an era of safer vaccines. Instead there's no incentive for companies to try harder to make vaccines that are safe for all.

  30. This is no different than any other drug on the market. Every medication has the potential for death and other very serious adverse effects. This article reminds me of those personal injury law firm commercials…IGNORANT. First and foremost, you can not get the flu from the flu shot. It's NOT a live virus. Second, you don't wait until you get into an accident before putting on your seat belt…why would you wait to get the flu and then get the shot? Pharmacies offering flu vaccinations has decreased the morbidity and mortality of flu related illnesses drastically. Everything in life has risks. If you step out of your front door, you run the risk of being hit by a bus. It shouldn't stop you from going out! This article is nonsense and is biased.

  31. Brenda Cheung Rollings

    On a side note, I have a question for you. What are your thoughts on the flu nasal spray? I know that's a live virus. Does it pose any more risk than the good old flu shot?

  32. Jay Cashen

    Paul Johnson, if you have a population of people with a life expectancy of 80, then a sample of 3833 people of ALL ages would have a mortality rate of about 3833/80 per year, or 48 deaths. That's 24 deaths per six month period. It should be much higher among an elderly sample. That should be a clue that the vaccine reduces mortality in an older population. Can''t anyone do simple math any more?

  33. Most ailments are stemming from the bad foods we eat. Overly processed foods and Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO's) wreak havoc when they get into our bodies. Our bodies aren't equipped to digest things that are not natural. Fresh organic farm raised foods are the best way to help your immune system fight illness. Some modified foods even contain roundup to repel insects. So if it kills the bugs, what is that doing to us? The world needs to band together to fight Monsanto, who controls 90% or more of the food on the shelves. Monsanto originally developed Agent Orange and now are genetically modifying our food. Find out more about Monsanto at see http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/ and see how you can help spread the word about GMO's at the next worldwide march on May 24, 2014.

  34. Jess Harbo Bittle

    As part of my job, I'm required to get the flu vaccine. For 3 years, I had the flu nasal spray. Every time within 2 hours I would feel sick (tired, achy, etc), and remain that way for 3 days straight. I stick with the shot despite my fear of needles. My kids get the flu nasal spray and have no side effects.

  35. Brandi Lea Luxton

    Beth Ingram-fountain getting the flu shot does not protect you from the :stomach flu/gastro infection. It protects you from Influenza. These are different viruses. That is one common mistake people make in thinking that it will protect them from the stomach flu. The only thing that will protect you from the stomach flu is washing your hands.

  36. Debora Hall Cook

    I wont go without a Flu shot, never had any Problems..and i understand 23 died after getting the shots is very sad..But do you realize how many die every year from the Flu ? Hundreds…

  37. Debora Hall Cook

    Kathi Gaber GabKat ..do you also read that the CDC quotes 64 children died from the flu and it seriously sickend people over 65 at a much higher rate than it did last year ( 2012) CDC doesn’t count how many adults die from flu each year, because it’s so high – anywhere from 4,000 to 49,000 a year. The vaccine was 58 percent protective in children, 46 percent effective in young adults, 50 percent effective in people aged 50 to 64 and 9 percent in people 65 and older.do your Math KATHI

  38. Mike West

    Why the heck would you?! Flu vaccines DO NOT Reduce your chance of catching the flu!

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/10/15/the-flu-vaccine-something-to-sneeze-at-by-roman-bystrianyk

    There has – Never – been a single study performed by any licensed medical facility or accredited medical school… that showed ANY reduction in rates of influenza contagion with the vaccination. Never!

    There is, in fact, overwhelming evidence that your chances of contracting A flu in the year you get the vaccination are significantly Higher. They argue about which Strains you get, not your chances of getting the flu at all.

  39. Mike West

    Jay Cashen Simple math for those who think Flu Vaccines reduce mortality rates.
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/10/15/the-flu-vaccine-something-to-sneeze-at-by-roman-bystrianyk

    I particularly like how while the US has the most advanced medical care in the world (as a population, the very wealthy in some Asian countries can get better as Individuals) — we have the highest infant mortality rate.
    And the highest number of infant vaccines… hmmm.
    — scrolls down to the chart showing the Direct relation between the 2 in countries worldwide —
    Never mind that any idiot who ever went to medical school, even a flunk-out, can tell you that a child does not produce antibodies normally for themselves in their first 6 months, they rely on their Mothers'. So what freaking sense does it make to expose them to Massive quantities of vaccines?!

  40. Sharron Pearce

    my mother is 91, has never had flu shots and never gets sick AND she lives in an old age home where there is quite a bit of sickness. Why? Because we use natural remedies and good diet. BTW I'm 66 never had flu shots or the flu. It's bogus medical marketing.

  41. Sharron Pearce

    I get what you're saying, but like children's vaccines – some work and some. You'd find that the 23 people who died had weaker immune systems and were unable to cope with the injected material.

  42. Sharron Pearce

    Hidden beneath the pleasing scent of lavender is a fierce natural medicine and formidable protector. Used since antiquity, lavender was a significant guardian against some of the most deadly infectious diseases of all time – the great epidemics of plague sweeping across Europe throughout the Middle Ages and into the 17th century. The protective aspects of the plant were discovered when tannery workers who utilized the oil in manufacturing, and those who tended lavender fields, appeared to be immune to the disease. Unbeknownst at the time, lavender is an exceptional bactericide and also stimulates the production of white blood cells, thereby creating a robust defense against harmful invading pathogens.

  43. Jess Harbo Bittle if you have any amount of a cold bacteria/virus in your system….you will get sick from the live virus or the flu vaccine. It takes two FULL weeks for the flu vaccine to fully cover your immune system. anytime in those two weeks, you may come across a cold virus/bacteria…..therefore you can get sick after getting the flu vaccine.

  44. Jay Cashen so true. I did the same math. Also, there are many Hospice (last life patients) who receive the flu shot to try to keep them from getting ill and passing sick. They are already in misery from cancer or other illness, why let them pass while sick with the flu?

  45. Trudy Hart Petersen everyone says this…..until diagnosed. and not by a dr. but by themself. you cant be your own doctor, but you can determine when you will die……sure…..dont take preventative treatment or keep an eye on yourself…..but when you are sick…..you will see a DR THEN

  46. Mary Beth Focer

    Within a week of having that crap sprayed up my nose, I was huddled on the couch, not caring about anything, except for getting through the next hour. Prior to getting the nasal flu shot, I was perfectly fine. While in my doctor's office for a follow up on a knee injury, his nurse bounced into the room and cajoled me into letting her help me keep well by submitting to a flu shot. My insurance wouldn't cover the shot, but it would cover this nasal spray. I haven't trusted anything that nurse had to say ever since. I did complain about getting sick from it and she lied without hesitation and said I was the only one who did. With an extra bright smile and troubled eyes. She did say it was not a live virus, so it couldn't have made me sick. I didn't know that part was also a lie, till I read these posts. I suppose the drug sales representative handed out incentives to my doctor's staff, wish I knew for sure. I don't like the thought of my doctor or his staff getting paid to prescribe or choose which medicine I use.

  47. i freaking made a mistake and got one last year. nearly passes out and ended up sick pretty bad. ever sense i have issues. go in fine, now its like the thing never quit. and no doctor finds in concerning that the side effects of the shot dont quit?!

  48. Brandi Lea Luxton may I also say to you, I understand that , but it helps protect you from the worse flu that you get 105 plus fever from… I catch everything when I get the flu shot I don't get any type of flu so explain that ???

  49. I had several children at home during the swine flu epidemic so we all got a shot. We had a new baby arrive and we weren't allowed to visit unless we had the shot. That was my first flu shot. The following 2 years I received one but the last time I had a fever for 6 hours so I think I'll avoid them since I am healthy. I juice veggies several times a day so I doubt I'd catch anything anyhow plus no kids left in the house.

  50. The average age of this trial group was 72.9. The death rate for this age is .0123395 per year. Of the 3851 participants in this trial, you would expect 48 deaths per year, or 23 deaths in 180 days. 23 deaths is exactly what we would expect from people in this age group for this period of time. In other words, the vaccine had zero effect on the death rate.

  51. The average age of this trial group was 72.9. The death rate for this age is .0123395 per year. Of the 3851 participants in this trial, you would expect 48 deaths per year, or 23 deaths in 180 days. 23 deaths is exactly what we would expect from people in this age group for this period of time. In other words, the vaccine had zero effect on the death rate.

  52. Danny Ebersold

    why would you put chemicals into your body… especially without knowing the risks… that is what the article is saying. We are finding out more and more information about what is in these flu vaccines, and other vaccines. But what we are seeing more and more of is the government and the pharma companies pushing a drug or a vaccine an not actually having to disclose real information to the person getting the injection or medication. The flu is not that scary…. but Aaron, what you are saying is that you want to just walk out the door and not even look both ways before crossing the street not caring if you get hit by a bus. THAT sounds ignorant. EVERY person should question the contents and consequences of ANY medication instead of blindly accepting without questioning your doctors and pharmacists…..

  53. Danny Ebersold

    I can say the same thing about the flu, using your logic. We should just let flu take its natural course since some of the elderly would die any way right? lol

  54. Darla Fuller

    Well your kids have the shots So they will not catch it . So let her make her choice for what she feels is best for her kids.

  55. EXSCUSE ME YOU BUNCH OF PHARMACEUTICAL CLONES , BACKNG THE VALIDITY OF FLU SHOTS, ARNT YOU ALL FORGETTING THEY CONTAIN THIMEROSOL AND A LOT OF OTHER HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE INGREDIENTS, THIMEROSOL IS A DERIVATIVE OF MERCURY WHICH IS A POISON, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE INJECTED INTO THE HUMAN GENOME, AND ALLSO THE VIRUS IS NOT DEAD AS CLAIMED, THERE SEAMS TO BE ALOT OF COMMENT ON THIS POST WITH SO CALLED EXPERT OPINIONS ON THE VALIDITY OF FLU VACCINES, I SAY THIS TO ALL OF YOU, GO AND DO PROPER RESEARCH ON THE DAMAGES CAUSED BY THE FLU VACCINES, OR DO YOU ALL HAVE VESTED INTERESTS IN PROMOTING DEATH, ALL OF YOUR SO CALLED STATISTICAL FACTS ARE ANOTHER METHOD TO CONFUSE THE UNINFORMED ! HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME SHARLOTANS !!!!!!

  56. I think we should be talking about JACQUE FRESCO'S "VENUS PROJECT"
    Getting rid of money, using a "Resource Based Economy",
    Got to change ALL of it, to cure ALL of it…

  57. I've Nursed a lot of Old confused or bed ridden People, laid out dead bodies in my Nursing years. Many minds had gone then, 10 yrs ago, a constant stream of sick people, & relatives dying early at the same time ??? knowing if we didnt feed them they would die, eat or stand up & go for a walk, they simply forget, Most symptoms are a result of neglect, because of heavy metals, pollution, foods laced with poisons, minds are effected. it's all going according to plan, form good habits & routine while you still can.

  58. Rhiannon Edge

    good for you! i don't like the fact that you make a choice for your own health and instantly you have people posting that they think your gonna die!! its like they WANT you to die….im a nurse and i get my flu shot every year too! i do it so i do not become a carrier and infect vulnerable people who look to me for safe health care.

  59. Rhiannon Edge

    not seeing a doctor when you think you might have a serious illness is foolish and its cheap its cheap if your only doing that to save money. but…whatevers. a dime a dozen is a life in an epidemic.

  60. Rhiannon Edge

    i just read a bunch of posts from peeps who talk like they know what they are doing but their opinions expose that they have no clue about what they are talking about! there is no vaccine for stupidity fear and hubris.

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